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I don't use Ubuntu anymore because it's turned into a garbage heap. Debian, Arch, or Qubes. (Fedora-Cent-RHEL are boned. Cent-RHEL has/had an awesome stable ker

I don't use Ubuntu anymore because it's turned into a garbage heap. Debian, Arch, or Qubes. (Fedora-Cent-RHEL are boned. Cent-RHEL has/had an awesome stable kernel due to enterprise-scale bug fixes but that's likely to end. Debian is a good substitute.) If I need the latest-greatest on a stable release OS, I use habitat.

mroche 6y ago
> Fedora-Cent-RHEL are boned. Care to elaborate on that? Curious where your position on this is coming from.
- airhead969 6y ago
  You may not be aware of what's happened: IBM buys RHEL and immediately messes with its products and culture. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/ibm-closes-its-34-billion-acquisition-of-red-hat.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/ibm-closes-its-34-billion-ac... https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/ https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/ CentOS is no longer basically functionally-equivalent to RHEL. https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/09/centos_red_hat/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/09/centos_red_hat/ IBM (through Red Hat) runs the Fedora project's board of directors, so there is no real independence from IBM.
dralley 6y ago
Fedora is great, I've been using it daily for 5 years.
- airhead969 6y ago
  How is Fedora going to sustain itself long-term? http://techrights.org/2020/12/26/fedora-2020-and-ibm-vision/ http://techrights.org/2020/12/26/fedora-2020-and-ibm-vision/
  - dralley 6y ago
    What is up with everyone posting techrights all of a sudden? It's a conspiracy blog, and most websites actually paying attention to FOSS news have ignored them for years. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4541p6/can_we_not_post_links_to_techrights_please/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4541p6/can_we_not_po... Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat. TechRights claimed that there were massive layoffs last year, which is total BS. They literally just make stuff up. The other day they claimed that "Fedora is being outsourced to Microsoft and to AWS" on the basis that some Fedora repos are on Github, and some build infrastructure uses AWS. And mind you the claim was not "Fedora project infrastructure is being outsourced" but actually "Fedora is being outsourced". And that has been the general way they approach "reporting" for years, as you can see from the /r/linux thread. Then when I and others pointed out how ridiculous this line of reasoning was, and the post got flagged by admins, they made an entire new post claiming they were being censored by HN.

mroche 6y ago

> Fedora-Cent-RHEL are boned. Care to elaborate on that? Curious where your position on this is coming from.

airhead969 6y ago
You may not be aware of what's happened: IBM buys RHEL and immediately messes with its products and culture. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/ibm-closes-its-34-billion-acquisition-of-red-hat.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/ibm-closes-its-34-billion-ac... https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/ https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/ CentOS is no longer basically functionally-equivalent to RHEL. https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/09/centos_red_hat/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/09/centos_red_hat/ IBM (through Red Hat) runs the Fedora project's board of directors, so there is no real independence from IBM.

dralley 6y ago

Fedora is great, I've been using it daily for 5 years.

airhead969 6y ago
How is Fedora going to sustain itself long-term? http://techrights.org/2020/12/26/fedora-2020-and-ibm-vision/ http://techrights.org/2020/12/26/fedora-2020-and-ibm-vision/
- dralley 6y ago
  What is up with everyone posting techrights all of a sudden? It's a conspiracy blog, and most websites actually paying attention to FOSS news have ignored them for years. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4541p6/can_we_not_post_links_to_techrights_please/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4541p6/can_we_not_po... Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat. TechRights claimed that there were massive layoffs last year, which is total BS. They literally just make stuff up. The other day they claimed that "Fedora is being outsourced to Microsoft and to AWS" on the basis that some Fedora repos are on Github, and some build infrastructure uses AWS. And mind you the claim was not "Fedora project infrastructure is being outsourced" but actually "Fedora is being outsourced". And that has been the general way they approach "reporting" for years, as you can see from the /r/linux thread. Then when I and others pointed out how ridiculous this line of reasoning was, and the post got flagged by admins, they made an entire new post claiming they were being censored by HN.