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I don't dislike them, I just dislike the idea that becoming a successful journalist will now mean you must also be charismatic, good at attracting attention to
by ceilingcorner 6y ago
I don't dislike them, I just dislike the idea that becoming a successful journalist will now mean you must also be charismatic, good at attracting attention to yourself, etc.
- inglor_cz 6y agoTo be honest, writing is a kind of art and what you describe has always been important among artistically gifted people. Introverted and shy geniuses tend to be discovered after their deaths, if ever.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoNo, that really isn't true at all. Some of the most famous writers and artists throughout history were terrible at self-promotion.
- inglor_cz 6y agoWell we are talking more about financial success, right? Or that was my impression from the debate. Even the original article revolves around $$$.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoI'm just concerned that journalists will become more like celebrities. Less concerned with the cold facts and more with giving their take. Frankly a similar thing has already happened in the art world. Banksy, Jeff Koons, and Damien Hirst are fantastic marketers, not artists.
- x0x0 6y agoWas Ted Koppel really a great journalist?
- ceilingcorner 6y agoNot the example I'd use. Kronkite is a better one, IMO. That level of straightforwardness is sorely lacking today.
- x0x0 6y agoThe word "now" is doing a lot of work there :) So also successful. Do you think there was really a time that being a really successful journalist didn't require some charisma and a talent for publicity? Maybe the publication handled some of those things, but it doesn't change that they were required.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoOf course. Investigative journalism has little to do with building an audience of paying subscribers. When the newspaper handled the business end, the journalists could focus on the journalism. It wasn't called "loss leader" for nothing.
- ghaff 6y agoNewspapers were historically a bundle of only somewhat tangentially related things that you had to take, if not actually read, all together. The foreign bureaus and investigative journalism provided the prestige, sports a lot of readership, and classified ads the money. Of course, the Internet broke that bundle apart to a large degree.
- x0x0 6y agoSomeone was doing it on behalf of the journalist. There's no particular difference between the journalist doing it or their publication.
- obiefernandez 6y agoThat's what the music world has become. And it fucking sucks.
- exolymph 6y agoIt has always meant that.