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For the duration your average new car buyer, and to a greater extend, HNer (this isn't exactly the "put 200k on an Altima u bought new" crowd), will own any giv
by throwaway0a5e 6y ago
For the duration your average new car buyer, and to a greater extend, HNer (this isn't exactly the "put 200k on an Altima u bought new" crowd), will own any given car these things won't be issues or if they are they'll be under warranty.
Everyone circle jerks about how their new 4Runner will last a million miles but you scroll back through the Facebook timeline, see how often they're buying cars, and it becomes pretty clear the people saying these things don't expect that to happen under their ownership (and the stats the automakers pay people to analyze over confirm this). New vehicles don't often get sold to people who will own them to the point where the lower level systems start needing attention.
ICE specific systems are highly refined because they get copypasta'd with minor alterations between multiple products. The stupid HVAC flapper that's specific to your model so some engineer could get a bonus for re-using some existing blower assembly is what's tested less and breaks more. It's rarely the "A to B" bits of the vehicle that give the people who buy new vehicles issue (except when OEMs put unnecessary things in the critical path, like preventing you from taking it out of Park without the consent of the door switches and stuff like that). EVs aren't immune to that kind of stuff that dominates early life (unscheduled) maintenance costs.
Electric isn't a hands down winner yet though it appears to be on that path. If if were we'd see EV Tranit Connect and NV200s and other vehicles that are purchased strictly by the numbers flying off the shelves. But it's probably close and the reason we're not there yet is likely just developmental man hours, not anything fundamental.
- Gravityloss 6y agoThere might now be motivation to deliver fully electric brake systems. They would have to be very reliable. A path to there could first be a small hydraulic pump for every wheel. For AC and battery thermal management, having a fluid is more fundamental. Solid state heat engines have terrible efficiency currently. Bikes have started using hydraulic disc brakes instead of cables, even when self service is much harder. Going the other way.
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