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In 2021, yes, it is, or at least that's the set of norms we've created. To be more precise, it's bad for anyone to hit on anyone else unless one omnisciently kn

In 2021, yes, it is, or at least that's the set of norms we've created. To be more precise, it's bad for anyone to hit on anyone else unless one omnisciently knows the other party is interested in you and wants to be hit on. As a result, the new forms of dating are that in order to move forward your risk for "making a move" (be it small or large) is not only rejection but also, apparently, potentially career ending for many (especially public figures). I'm glad I'm happily settled and far removed from the dating scene. Perhaps my principles are too crass for many but I feel in today's romantic relationships, you almost need to have an attorney with you on a date and notary that can sign off that both parties are going to consent to physical contact before making physical contact or much beyond verbally flirting in the most uninteresting ways leaving both parties wondering if the other is at all interested in them romantically. I'm not condoning rape or flat out sexual assault, there is certainly a line that should never be crossed, but I think we've been moving that line too far for reasonably acceptable human behavior. Heaven forbid you take the chance of misreading the situation and attempt to kiss someone before also having that notarized by your attorney present.

doomslice 6y ago
> In 2021, yes, it is, or at least that's the set of norms we've created. To be more precise, it's bad for anyone to hit on anyone else unless one omnisciently knows the other party is interested in you and wants to be hit on. I can't believe anyone seriously thinks this. It's bad if you're in a position of power and you hit on someone under your influence - doesn't matter if they would reciprocate or not.
hutzlibu 6y ago
"but I think we've been moving that line too far for reasonably acceptable human behavior" We maybe did. But we are also far from the dystopian scenario you described. I can tell you, in the real world dating still just works fine. But yes, some behaviours like slapping on some ass, are more frowned upon and called out. Rightfully so. The times where a woman had to marry her rapist, (this is actually from the bible) are gladly mostly over. But those times were the reason, now it got pushed back too much. Because there is some unresolved anger left. And being aware of it - can help understand some rections better. Like the original blog post that started all this. Which many here waved away as a sneaky smear campaign to create attention. Well no, it was a very emotional, honest expressed post. Maybe not really fair in all points, because - emotions. But authentic. When you are a leader in an idealistic movement and you are incapable of sensing other peoples feelings - before you wave accusations of rape just away - then you are just wrong in that position.

doomslice 6y ago

> In 2021, yes, it is, or at least that's the set of norms we've created. To be more precise, it's bad for anyone to hit on anyone else unless one omnisciently knows the other party is interested in you and wants to be hit on. I can't believe anyone seriously thinks this. It's bad if you're in a position of power and you hit on someone under your influence - doesn't matter if they would reciprocate or not.

hutzlibu 6y ago

"but I think we've been moving that line too far for reasonably acceptable human behavior" We maybe did. But we are also far from the dystopian scenario you described. I can tell you, in the real world dating still just works fine. But yes, some behaviours like slapping on some ass, are more frowned upon and called out. Rightfully so. The times where a woman had to marry her rapist, (this is actually from the bible) are gladly mostly over. But those times were the reason, now it got pushed back too much. Because there is some unresolved anger left. And being aware of it - can help understand some rections better. Like the original blog post that started all this. Which many here waved away as a sneaky smear campaign to create attention. Well no, it was a very emotional, honest expressed post. Maybe not really fair in all points, because - emotions. But authentic. When you are a leader in an idealistic movement and you are incapable of sensing other peoples feelings - before you wave accusations of rape just away - then you are just wrong in that position.