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I love the comment that says you could make a device that requires you to unplug and plug the other way before it works, no matter what.

by sbarre 6y ago

sneak 6y ago
At least then the insertion effort is O(1): you know in advance it will take two tries. Even that is an upgrade over pre-C USB, in my view.
- rightbyte 6y ago
  I do prefer mechanical feedback over software feedback.
  - cassianoleal 6y ago
    Like an electrical shock if it doesn't like the orientation?
- 2rsf 6y ago
  The average tries for USB 2.0/3.0 is bigger than 2, something closer to 3
TheRealSteel 6y ago
I believe to properly conform to the USB specification, the device must be tried one way, tried the other way, then tried the first way again before it plugs in properly.
- dogma1138 6y ago
  You forget the chicken bones and the tears of a Virgin step.
  - fuzzfactor 6y ago
    >“I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device” You and everyone else. I knew this was not going to be ideal in the late '90's when USB 1 came out. Radio Shack was still going strong but this was the first PC connector that you could not purchase plugs or jacks for to solder your own. Also no suitable 4-conductor cable. Even though the USB 1 approach was for a 92 foot maximum cable length (since it was only intended for the low-bandwidth webcams at the time) this was rapdily nonpublicized since USB 2 was already in planning, for much faster speed and a 25 foot max cable length, eventually shortened to 16 feet. Well once you got suitable cable, you still had to cut pigtails off of USB cords so you could get the cable ends.
- NoOneNew 6y ago
  Calm down there Satan. Though, in all seriousness, it would make an interesting security through obscurity feature. Everything works fine with the device, but only allows/shows certain features/files after Satan's rotation pattern. More secret squirrel than "security" in reality.
- Nullabillity 6y ago
  Combine with a gyro to ensure that the rotations are made in the correct respective directions.
tyingq 6y ago
Two counters tied to an AND gate and you could require X number of orientation flips before it works :)
- minikites 6y ago
  I assume you could add a timer somehow, so you could make it like a combination lock where you have to wait X time between turns?
- airhead969 6y ago
  USB-C port knocking... flipping.
- joombaga 6y ago
  You could achieve similar results without the added complexity by extending construction into 4 spatial dimensions.

I love the comment that says you could make a device that requires you to unplug and plug the other way before it works, no matter what.

by sbarre 6y ago

I love the comment that says you could make a device that requires you to unplug and plug the other way before it works, no matter what.

sneak 6y ago

At least then the insertion effort is O(1): you know in advance it will take two tries. Even that is an upgrade over pre-C USB, in my view.

rightbyte 6y ago
I do prefer mechanical feedback over software feedback.
- cassianoleal 6y ago
  Like an electrical shock if it doesn't like the orientation?
2rsf 6y ago
The average tries for USB 2.0/3.0 is bigger than 2, something closer to 3

TheRealSteel 6y ago

I believe to properly conform to the USB specification, the device must be tried one way, tried the other way, then tried the first way again before it plugs in properly.

dogma1138 6y ago
You forget the chicken bones and the tears of a Virgin step.
- fuzzfactor 6y ago
  >“I’ve made a Cursed USB-C 2.0 device” You and everyone else. I knew this was not going to be ideal in the late '90's when USB 1 came out. Radio Shack was still going strong but this was the first PC connector that you could not purchase plugs or jacks for to solder your own. Also no suitable 4-conductor cable. Even though the USB 1 approach was for a 92 foot maximum cable length (since it was only intended for the low-bandwidth webcams at the time) this was rapdily nonpublicized since USB 2 was already in planning, for much faster speed and a 25 foot max cable length, eventually shortened to 16 feet. Well once you got suitable cable, you still had to cut pigtails off of USB cords so you could get the cable ends.
NoOneNew 6y ago
Calm down there Satan. Though, in all seriousness, it would make an interesting security through obscurity feature. Everything works fine with the device, but only allows/shows certain features/files after Satan's rotation pattern. More secret squirrel than "security" in reality.
Nullabillity 6y ago
Combine with a gyro to ensure that the rotations are made in the correct respective directions.

tyingq 6y ago

Two counters tied to an AND gate and you could require X number of orientation flips before it works :)

minikites 6y ago
I assume you could add a timer somehow, so you could make it like a combination lock where you have to wait X time between turns?
airhead969 6y ago
USB-C port knocking... flipping.
joombaga 6y ago
You could achieve similar results without the added complexity by extending construction into 4 spatial dimensions.