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> someone post-pubescent but below the age of consent I think an adult having sexual acts with a minor is not good because of the power imbalance. At the time

> someone post-pubescent but below the age of consent I think an adult having sexual acts with a minor is not good because of the power imbalance. At the time of the act, the age of consent in that jurisdiction was 16 [0], so the person was not below the age of consent. It has since been changed to 18. I’m not agreeing with having a low age of consent, but since that’s a legal term, I’m posting this just to help you correctly state since this whole episode seems to be fraught with the need for precision. [0] Minsky was in USVI, I believe, at the time was 16, now 18. Also oddly, the typical age of consent in the US is 16. https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-states https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/united-states

pseudalopex 6y ago
"Crossing state lines to have sexual relations invokes federal law. The federal age of consent is 18."[1] [1] https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/january/state-lines-and-the-age-of-consent/ https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/january/state-lines-and...
- prepend 6y ago
  Again, I think any sex with a minor is unethical, regardless of law. But in this particulars of Minsky’s situation he didn’t cross state lines for purposes of sex, he crossed for other purposes. IANAL, but I think this would be important for determining if age of consent was violated. If there was some sign of intent that Minsky planned on traveling just to sex this person then I think the reference you provided applies. But if he went for genuine other purposes then it would not. Arguing for purposes of nerd accuracy (or whatever you call it) not based on any endorsement of circumventing age of consent laws or abusing individuals.
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    I think you're reading too much into informal phrasing. And a reasonable person would suspect prostitution or coercion.
    - prepend 6y ago
      I was commenting on the law relates to traveling for purposes of applying age of consent. If someone is traveling for other purposes and does have sex, then the local age is applied, not federal. The reasonable person test is sure to be resolved by court. But given their example, if someone is in Vegas and has sex with someone then the Nevada age of consent applies. But not if someone goes to Vegas with someone. If I remember the details of the Minsky scenario, it’s that Minsky was visiting Epstein for some retreat and had (or was accused, I don’t remember) of sexing a 17year old (who was basically human trafficked and forced to sex people by Epstein). So that would seem like the purpose of travel was not sex, so local age of consent would apply. But a court could decide. Of course, an admiral goal is to never be involved in any such scenario and I think a good heuristic is if one has to ask oneself if sex could be illegal, then one should not have that sex.
      - pseudalopex 6y ago
        > But given their example, if someone is in Vegas and has sex with someone then the Nevada age of consent applies. But not if someone goes to Vegas with someone. A witness testified Giuffre was on the plane with Minsky.
visitor1 6y ago
<quote>It has since been changed to 18.</quote> Could you provide some source as to when the age of consent was changed from 16 to 18 in the US Virgin Island? That would be really illuminating! A link to the Act, an article, something? I haven't been able to find any.
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pseudalopex 6y ago

"Crossing state lines to have sexual relations invokes federal law. The federal age of consent is 18."[1] [1] https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/january/state-lines-and-the-age-of-consent/ https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/january/state-lines-and...

prepend 6y ago
Again, I think any sex with a minor is unethical, regardless of law. But in this particulars of Minsky’s situation he didn’t cross state lines for purposes of sex, he crossed for other purposes. IANAL, but I think this would be important for determining if age of consent was violated. If there was some sign of intent that Minsky planned on traveling just to sex this person then I think the reference you provided applies. But if he went for genuine other purposes then it would not. Arguing for purposes of nerd accuracy (or whatever you call it) not based on any endorsement of circumventing age of consent laws or abusing individuals.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  I think you're reading too much into informal phrasing. And a reasonable person would suspect prostitution or coercion.
  - prepend 6y ago
    I was commenting on the law relates to traveling for purposes of applying age of consent. If someone is traveling for other purposes and does have sex, then the local age is applied, not federal. The reasonable person test is sure to be resolved by court. But given their example, if someone is in Vegas and has sex with someone then the Nevada age of consent applies. But not if someone goes to Vegas with someone. If I remember the details of the Minsky scenario, it’s that Minsky was visiting Epstein for some retreat and had (or was accused, I don’t remember) of sexing a 17year old (who was basically human trafficked and forced to sex people by Epstein). So that would seem like the purpose of travel was not sex, so local age of consent would apply. But a court could decide. Of course, an admiral goal is to never be involved in any such scenario and I think a good heuristic is if one has to ask oneself if sex could be illegal, then one should not have that sex.
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      > But given their example, if someone is in Vegas and has sex with someone then the Nevada age of consent applies. But not if someone goes to Vegas with someone. A witness testified Giuffre was on the plane with Minsky.

visitor1 6y ago

<quote>It has since been changed to 18.</quote> Could you provide some source as to when the age of consent was changed from 16 to 18 in the US Virgin Island? That would be really illuminating! A link to the Act, an article, something? I haven't been able to find any.

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