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While I agree they don't fully understand OCD, I think they know enough about it to sympathize. They know enough to know they don't actually have it, just some

While I agree they don't fully understand OCD, I think they know enough about it to sympathize. They know enough to know they don't actually have it, just some light compulsions. And as for "moderately obese"... I wouldn't have previously described myself that way, but I fit it. My doctor tells me I'm medically obese. Nobody looking at me would describe me that way, but they would admit that I'm over-weight. They all say I look fine and don't need to lose more weight, though. If that's not "moderately obese", I don't know what would be. What the world needs are terms to describe compulsive behavior, succinctly, other than "moderate OCD". I definitely have things that bother me immensely if I don't fix them, but it isn't to the point that I need help with it. I clearly don't have "OCD", but what do I have? There's no word for it. I've stopped using the term OCD for anything about me, because I know it bothers other people. But I don't get mad at those who continue to use it because there's no proper term, and thus no way to actually correct their behavior. Only to stifle them. And I don't do that to other people.

skissane 6y ago
> And as for "moderately obese"... I wouldn't have previously described myself that way, but I fit it. Obesity is divided into 3 classes: class 1 (low-risk, BMI 30.0 to 34.9), class 2 (moderate-risk, 35.0 to 39.9), class 3 (high risk, 40.0 or higher). Using the term "moderate obesity" for class 2 obesity may not be exactly standard, but it has some logic to it. > I clearly don't have "OCD", but what do I have? There's no word for it. Is it possible you have subclinical OCD? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849913/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849913/ (Or maybe subclinical OCPD?)
- wccrawford 6y ago
  IIRC, I'd actually be class 1 obese by that list, now. So maybe "Slightly obese"? That sounds even more ridiculous, but it's pretty accurate. As for the OCD... Even that description sounds worse than what I have. But the existence of "subclinical OCD" makes me even less worried about people claiming to have "moderate OCD" or something. Not only is it a spectrum, but the experts seem to be fine with using the word to describe people that are almost it, with some qualifying words.
  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    Maybe they’re not almost, but less encumbered by it than more severe cases. The thing about a spectrum is it makes room for people who, by necessity or will, share the symptomatic experience but lack some of the disabling impact. The benefit of that inclusion is that those people are able to benefit from a diagnosis and relevant treatment even if they’re not in the direst straits. In my own experience, this meant that I was able to begin treatment for ADHD even though I’d had over a decade as a successful adult. And that treatment saved my life. Sure, I made it that far with what I could scrap together in myself and my luck in life. But when that wasn’t enough, my “moderate” case revealed its severity. If I’d had access to that diagnosis and care earlier it probably wouldn’t have ever been so severe.
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  Off topic, but using BMI and not body fat percentage to define obesity in an individual seems dubious at best. > Keys explicitly judged BMI as appropriate for population studies and inappropriate for individual evaluation. Nevertheless, due to its simplicity, it has come to be widely used for preliminary diagnoses. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#History

skissane 6y ago

> And as for "moderately obese"... I wouldn't have previously described myself that way, but I fit it. Obesity is divided into 3 classes: class 1 (low-risk, BMI 30.0 to 34.9), class 2 (moderate-risk, 35.0 to 39.9), class 3 (high risk, 40.0 or higher). Using the term "moderate obesity" for class 2 obesity may not be exactly standard, but it has some logic to it. > I clearly don't have "OCD", but what do I have? There's no word for it. Is it possible you have subclinical OCD? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849913/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18849913/ (Or maybe subclinical OCPD?)

wccrawford 6y ago
IIRC, I'd actually be class 1 obese by that list, now. So maybe "Slightly obese"? That sounds even more ridiculous, but it's pretty accurate. As for the OCD... Even that description sounds worse than what I have. But the existence of "subclinical OCD" makes me even less worried about people claiming to have "moderate OCD" or something. Not only is it a spectrum, but the experts seem to be fine with using the word to describe people that are almost it, with some qualifying words.
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  Maybe they’re not almost, but less encumbered by it than more severe cases. The thing about a spectrum is it makes room for people who, by necessity or will, share the symptomatic experience but lack some of the disabling impact. The benefit of that inclusion is that those people are able to benefit from a diagnosis and relevant treatment even if they’re not in the direst straits. In my own experience, this meant that I was able to begin treatment for ADHD even though I’d had over a decade as a successful adult. And that treatment saved my life. Sure, I made it that far with what I could scrap together in myself and my luck in life. But when that wasn’t enough, my “moderate” case revealed its severity. If I’d had access to that diagnosis and care earlier it probably wouldn’t have ever been so severe.
AlexandrB 6y ago
Off topic, but using BMI and not body fat percentage to define obesity in an individual seems dubious at best. > Keys explicitly judged BMI as appropriate for population studies and inappropriate for individual evaluation. Nevertheless, due to its simplicity, it has come to be widely used for preliminary diagnoses. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#History