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Clojure Conj 2011 Early Registration Open

48 points by devin 15y ago

Tiomaidh 15y ago
Slightly OT, but does anyone know of any CL conferences in the US? Google has failed me so far.
- mrduncan 15y ago
  I've found Lanyrd to usually be the best bet for finding conferences - unfortunately, they don't list any either. http://lanyrd.com/topics/common-lisp/ http://lanyrd.com/topics/common-lisp/
  - redinger 15y ago
    I agree with using Lanyrd for tracking conferences. And to bring this back around ... don't forget to check out http://lanyrd.com/2011/clojure-conj/ http://lanyrd.com/2011/clojure-conj/
- puredanger 15y ago
  You might find Strange Loop interesting. It's not a CL conference but rather a multi-technology conference on many leading edge technologies so you will find Clojure, Scala, Haskell, Erlang, Go, Ruby, Python, nosql, mobile, web, etc. This year's keynotes are Rich Hickey, Gerald Sussman, Erik Meijer, and Allen Wirfs-Brock. The conference is Sept 18-20th in St. Louis. Find out more here: http://thestrangeloop.com http://thestrangeloop.com (full schedule to be posted soon)
kleiba 15y ago
I don't know what it is, but I've got the impression that Clojure is losing steam. I actually hope I'm wrong. But it seems after much interest in the hackerverse, it never really cought on widely. Any opinions? Or even better, proves to the contrary?
- fogus 15y ago
  Take this with a mountain-sized grain of salt, but: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ruby%2C+python%2C+php%2C+java%2C+scala%2C+clojure%2C+groovy&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ruby%2C+python%2C+php%2C+j...
- puredanger 15y ago
  Well we have a team of 7 building enterprise data products Clojure and have found it to be excellent. More success stories here: http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+Success+Stories http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+Success+Sto...
- WildUtah 15y ago
  Clojure will never really gain a lot of steam. As PG has explained [1] lisp is an advantage only for very smart programers; the majority will never be able to take advantage of its multiplier effect on innovation. In fact, your typical Blub programmer probably would lose long term productivity forcing himself to work in a lisp instead of a language well focused on his strengths. A Java or C-octothorpe sharply aimed at a coder only one or two standard deviations smarter than the average person will actually help him produce some kind of useful output. But the community and popularity Clojure already has make it the most prominent lisp around for new projects and give it great long term prospects. This is the lisp that will be around in twenty years and probably the most popular lisp for most of that time. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
  - nickik 15y ago
    I think one of the Problem with Lisp (and Haskell ...) is that people keep talking about how the are only for smart people and we should really get away from this. Clojure is easier to learn then Java if your not allready set in Java ways and even if you are then you will have to learn a lot of the Clojure lessens in Java. Going more towards parallel und concurent systems immutebility has proven to be the better default and that what Java Books teach too. Once you get that in your head learning Clojure want look half as bad. Not every Java team will just use Clojure or Scala but the trend in Industrie atm is to be open to all kinds of new stuff like FP, NoSQL, TDD, CI, XP ... Its likely that Clojure will not get steam like Java or C but that alternativ Solution can be much better then sitting at your old tech-stack and that message will eventually even drop threw to mangers. Its a bottum up "revolution".

48 points by devin 15y ago

Tiomaidh 15y ago

Slightly OT, but does anyone know of any CL conferences in the US? Google has failed me so far.

mrduncan 15y ago
I've found Lanyrd to usually be the best bet for finding conferences - unfortunately, they don't list any either. http://lanyrd.com/topics/common-lisp/ http://lanyrd.com/topics/common-lisp/
- redinger 15y ago
  I agree with using Lanyrd for tracking conferences. And to bring this back around ... don't forget to check out http://lanyrd.com/2011/clojure-conj/ http://lanyrd.com/2011/clojure-conj/
puredanger 15y ago
You might find Strange Loop interesting. It's not a CL conference but rather a multi-technology conference on many leading edge technologies so you will find Clojure, Scala, Haskell, Erlang, Go, Ruby, Python, nosql, mobile, web, etc. This year's keynotes are Rich Hickey, Gerald Sussman, Erik Meijer, and Allen Wirfs-Brock. The conference is Sept 18-20th in St. Louis. Find out more here: http://thestrangeloop.com http://thestrangeloop.com (full schedule to be posted soon)

kleiba 15y ago

I don't know what it is, but I've got the impression that Clojure is losing steam. I actually hope I'm wrong. But it seems after much interest in the hackerverse, it never really cought on widely. Any opinions? Or even better, proves to the contrary?

fogus 15y ago
Take this with a mountain-sized grain of salt, but: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ruby%2C+python%2C+php%2C+java%2C+scala%2C+clojure%2C+groovy&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=ruby%2C+python%2C+php%2C+j...
puredanger 15y ago
Well we have a team of 7 building enterprise data products Clojure and have found it to be excellent. More success stories here: http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+Success+Stories http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Clojure+Success+Sto...
WildUtah 15y ago
Clojure will never really gain a lot of steam. As PG has explained [1] lisp is an advantage only for very smart programers; the majority will never be able to take advantage of its multiplier effect on innovation. In fact, your typical Blub programmer probably would lose long term productivity forcing himself to work in a lisp instead of a language well focused on his strengths. A Java or C-octothorpe sharply aimed at a coder only one or two standard deviations smarter than the average person will actually help him produce some kind of useful output. But the community and popularity Clojure already has make it the most prominent lisp around for new projects and give it great long term prospects. This is the lisp that will be around in twenty years and probably the most popular lisp for most of that time. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
- nickik 15y ago
  I think one of the Problem with Lisp (and Haskell ...) is that people keep talking about how the are only for smart people and we should really get away from this. Clojure is easier to learn then Java if your not allready set in Java ways and even if you are then you will have to learn a lot of the Clojure lessens in Java. Going more towards parallel und concurent systems immutebility has proven to be the better default and that what Java Books teach too. Once you get that in your head learning Clojure want look half as bad. Not every Java team will just use Clojure or Scala but the trend in Industrie atm is to be open to all kinds of new stuff like FP, NoSQL, TDD, CI, XP ... Its likely that Clojure will not get steam like Java or C but that alternativ Solution can be much better then sitting at your old tech-stack and that message will eventually even drop threw to mangers. Its a bottum up "revolution".