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"British businesses aren't willing to train their staff in the skills they need, want universities to do it for them."

maest 6y ago
Digital skills really should be taught in schools/universities; at this point, they're something the average person should have at least a passing familiarity with.
konjin 6y ago
Don't forget paying reasonable salaries.
iagovar 6y ago
This happens in Spain too, and I bet more countries are on the list. Universities can't train people in the lastest tech. It's not what they are for. That's the job of "Professional Formation" as we call it in Spain, and I know other countries have similar programs (Community Colleges, Trade programs?). Now, if you want someone with deeper theorical knowledge (uni) + hands-on training, you're either looking for people who engage in programming very early (not many, you have to compete for them) or you're looking for someone who wen't through both Uni + FP which is probably way less people. In the end, you'll have to spend money in juniors, like it or not. It's a fact of life. Which mean you'll have to hire senior developers (who can teach & mentor) and allow them to spend time and resources on this people. This isn't new, it's what trades have been doing for thousands of years. If you have the money, don't be a lazy fuck and do it.
ZephyrBlu 6y ago
To be fair, I think the role of universities has evolved but universities are still stuck in the past. Such a large proportion of the population goes to university these days that they aren't really just academic institutions anymore. Either they should be more selective, embrace their role as a more vocational institution or at the very least create courses/degrees that distinguish between academic and industry/vocational pathways.
- cutler 6y ago
  When I went to university in 1979 there was a clear distinction between polytechnics and universities which served industry well. Political correctness killed all that.

Digital skills really should be taught in schools/universities; at this point, they're something the average person should have at least a passing familiarity with.

konjin 6y ago

Don't forget paying reasonable salaries.

iagovar 6y ago

This happens in Spain too, and I bet more countries are on the list. Universities can't train people in the lastest tech. It's not what they are for. That's the job of "Professional Formation" as we call it in Spain, and I know other countries have similar programs (Community Colleges, Trade programs?). Now, if you want someone with deeper theorical knowledge (uni) + hands-on training, you're either looking for people who engage in programming very early (not many, you have to compete for them) or you're looking for someone who wen't through both Uni + FP which is probably way less people. In the end, you'll have to spend money in juniors, like it or not. It's a fact of life. Which mean you'll have to hire senior developers (who can teach & mentor) and allow them to spend time and resources on this people. This isn't new, it's what trades have been doing for thousands of years. If you have the money, don't be a lazy fuck and do it.

ZephyrBlu 6y ago

To be fair, I think the role of universities has evolved but universities are still stuck in the past. Such a large proportion of the population goes to university these days that they aren't really just academic institutions anymore. Either they should be more selective, embrace their role as a more vocational institution or at the very least create courses/degrees that distinguish between academic and industry/vocational pathways.

cutler 6y ago
When I went to university in 1979 there was a clear distinction between polytechnics and universities which served industry well. Political correctness killed all that.