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HN is funny sometimes. You guys seem to either want a battered down Toyota that you can fix with a screw driver or the absolute latest AI-powered Tesla 666.

bitcharmer 6y ago
What's your point? The two cars cover drastically different use cases.
- throwaway4good 6y ago
  How are they different use cases? Transportation and showing off? City life and the apocalypse?
  - crubier 6y ago
    Yes
  - protomyth 6y ago
    Well, I'm pretty sure a Tesla isn't going to be a good winter car in North Dakota, but I guess that's the same use case as the apocalypse.
downrightmike 6y ago
Ah yes, because HN is just one guy
- teekert 6y ago
  Well, he described me. I also doubted between an iPhone 12 mini and a PinePhone (the FairPhone was also in the mix). Both (or all 3) appealing for very different reasons.
  - ianai 6y ago
    Would anyone grief a car mechanic for owning a miata, a truck, and probably half a dozen vehicles in total? One form of being a professional involves being an enthusiast.
- C19is20 6y ago
  He used the plural.
- selfhoster11 6y ago
  HN is (sometimes rightly) perceived as a hive mind with regards to the consensus that emerges on certain topics. It's a classier country club than Reddit, but it's still one.
adrianN 6y ago
There are also people here who want a bicycle.
- Koliakis 6y ago
  Is the bicycle at least AI-powered? Otherwise I don't see the point
  - adrianN 6y ago
    It's self-driving* (*restricted to straight down-hill roads)
  - syncsynchalt 6y ago
    Quite the opposite, I rip cyclocomputers off of every bicycle that I buy. I can't be the only software dev that dislikes gadgets. I work with computers all day but don't particularly like them and don't want more of them in my house. With that said I'm not against computers in ICE vehicles, the emissions improvements and yes reliability improvements they've brought are amazing.
- protomyth 6y ago
  Well, to be honest, this https://a-ride.com/ https://a-ride.com/ has caught my nephew and nieces attention as of late. Way to expensive for them but I guess bicycles get boring too.
- danaliv 6y ago
  And I'd like an airplane, please. Or a spaceship. Talk about "remote."
mullingitover 6y ago
It's a mix of software engineers who want to run the latest bleeding-edge framework and the operations engineers who have to make it work in production.
- protomyth 6y ago
  Hum... I'm currently a system admin and have spare parts and a toolkit in my vehicle. I will have to think on that when I go back to being a developer.
cybwraith 6y ago
I mean, I want both. Or rather, there's a cutoff point where I am okay with one, or the other. Right now the state of things are in a worst of both worlds scenario. I think cars are: Too expensive and complex now in the name of "safety". Most additions to required car safety features beyond airbags has been minimal in actual gains compared to the added cost and long term repair complexity induced. I think entry level cars should be able to be much cheaper and barebones. The recent requirement for backup cameras is one example of too much for too little. I just want a car that gets me from A to B reliably. I don't even care if it has good radio/speakers, power windows, etc. On the flipside, I hate driving in general. I'll happily pay for a self-driving (or nearly self driving, at least) car with all the gizmos needed to make it work. However I will only "buy" such a car (in the sense of legal ownership) if it has a lifetime warranty or reasonable trade-in guarantees. Otherwise it'd be lease or long term rent only as the repair and upkeep costs on so much proprietary tech would be insane past X years, if its even possible. Cars are a tool, not a fashion / status symbol for me.

bitcharmer 6y ago

What's your point? The two cars cover drastically different use cases.

throwaway4good 6y ago
How are they different use cases? Transportation and showing off? City life and the apocalypse?
- crubier 6y ago
  Yes
- protomyth 6y ago
  Well, I'm pretty sure a Tesla isn't going to be a good winter car in North Dakota, but I guess that's the same use case as the apocalypse.

downrightmike 6y ago

Ah yes, because HN is just one guy

teekert 6y ago
Well, he described me. I also doubted between an iPhone 12 mini and a PinePhone (the FairPhone was also in the mix). Both (or all 3) appealing for very different reasons.
- ianai 6y ago
  Would anyone grief a car mechanic for owning a miata, a truck, and probably half a dozen vehicles in total? One form of being a professional involves being an enthusiast.
C19is20 6y ago
He used the plural.
selfhoster11 6y ago
HN is (sometimes rightly) perceived as a hive mind with regards to the consensus that emerges on certain topics. It's a classier country club than Reddit, but it's still one.

adrianN 6y ago

There are also people here who want a bicycle.

Koliakis 6y ago
Is the bicycle at least AI-powered? Otherwise I don't see the point
- adrianN 6y ago
  It's self-driving* (*restricted to straight down-hill roads)
- syncsynchalt 6y ago
  Quite the opposite, I rip cyclocomputers off of every bicycle that I buy. I can't be the only software dev that dislikes gadgets. I work with computers all day but don't particularly like them and don't want more of them in my house. With that said I'm not against computers in ICE vehicles, the emissions improvements and yes reliability improvements they've brought are amazing.
protomyth 6y ago
Well, to be honest, this https://a-ride.com/ https://a-ride.com/ has caught my nephew and nieces attention as of late. Way to expensive for them but I guess bicycles get boring too.
danaliv 6y ago
And I'd like an airplane, please. Or a spaceship. Talk about "remote."

mullingitover 6y ago

It's a mix of software engineers who want to run the latest bleeding-edge framework and the operations engineers who have to make it work in production.

protomyth 6y ago
Hum... I'm currently a system admin and have spare parts and a toolkit in my vehicle. I will have to think on that when I go back to being a developer.

cybwraith 6y ago

I mean, I want both. Or rather, there's a cutoff point where I am okay with one, or the other. Right now the state of things are in a worst of both worlds scenario. I think cars are: Too expensive and complex now in the name of "safety". Most additions to required car safety features beyond airbags has been minimal in actual gains compared to the added cost and long term repair complexity induced. I think entry level cars should be able to be much cheaper and barebones. The recent requirement for backup cameras is one example of too much for too little. I just want a car that gets me from A to B reliably. I don't even care if it has good radio/speakers, power windows, etc. On the flipside, I hate driving in general. I'll happily pay for a self-driving (or nearly self driving, at least) car with all the gizmos needed to make it work. However I will only "buy" such a car (in the sense of legal ownership) if it has a lifetime warranty or reasonable trade-in guarantees. Otherwise it'd be lease or long term rent only as the repair and upkeep costs on so much proprietary tech would be insane past X years, if its even possible. Cars are a tool, not a fashion / status symbol for me.