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> Backblaze shouldn't even be using FB pixels to begin with. > Why is that? Perhaps they get business value out of it? Oh, they get value out of invading my p

> Backblaze shouldn't even be using FB pixels to begin with. > Why is that? Perhaps they get business value out of it? Oh, they get value out of invading my privacy? Carry on then!

manigandham 6y ago
Running and measuring ads is one of many things that delivers value to a business, yes. The privacy issue in this case is clearly an implementation mistake and seems to have been resolved. Ignoring the situation and context to make a comical statement doesn't really add anything to the discussion.
- ksec 6y ago
  The overwhelmingly mentality on HN is that All Ads are bad. And all targeting Ads is bad. Because by their definition, All ads are tracking ads. This mentality also fits the current Internet and Twitter narrative. Especially true when it is from Facebook. Which happens to be pure evil on HN, twitter sphere and MainStream Media.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    > The overwhelmingly mentality on HN is that All Ads are bad. Ads will at best waste my time/bandwidth/processing power and at worst compromise my privacy and/or convince me to make a bad financial decision. I don't see why this mentality is wrong?
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      Ads are micropayments that work. I don’t like them per se and run an ad blocker and PiHole, but the fact that others don’t allows me to micropay for a lot of content with my time.
      - ignoramous 6y ago
        > Ads are micropayments that work. One thing if those micro-payments end up enriching the creators, but another when blackholed into the coffers of a few tech cos.
      - ectopod 6y ago
        Surely you meant to say: > but the fact that others don’t allows them to micropay for a lot of content with their time. I'm not objecting. I do the same. But in what sense are you paying? I'm sure I'm not.
        sokoloff 6y ago
        When I read a 5 minute Medium article, I'm paying with 5 minutes of my time. If I decide to bail out 1 minute into the article, I have still lost 1 minute of my time. The creator isn't getting any benefit from it, but I'm still paying.
  - efreak 6y ago
    ＞ Because by their definition, All ads are tracking ads. John Gruber has an ad at daringfireball.net, currently for a company called Simris. IIRC the ad is pure text, not loaded by a script, and does not track you. Other blogs (usually security professionals ime) have text-based ads that are probably part of the theme in a static site generator.
    - ksec 6y ago
      I should have put /s at the end of that sentence. I know all of what you said, but somehow HN still thinks Ads are bad.

> Backblaze shouldn't even be using FB pixels to begin with. > Why is that? Perhaps they get business value out of it? Oh, they get value out of invading my privacy? Carry on then!

manigandham 6y ago

Running and measuring ads is one of many things that delivers value to a business, yes. The privacy issue in this case is clearly an implementation mistake and seems to have been resolved. Ignoring the situation and context to make a comical statement doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

ksec 6y ago
The overwhelmingly mentality on HN is that All Ads are bad. And all targeting Ads is bad. Because by their definition, All ads are tracking ads. This mentality also fits the current Internet and Twitter narrative. Especially true when it is from Facebook. Which happens to be pure evil on HN, twitter sphere and MainStream Media.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  > The overwhelmingly mentality on HN is that All Ads are bad. Ads will at best waste my time/bandwidth/processing power and at worst compromise my privacy and/or convince me to make a bad financial decision. I don't see why this mentality is wrong?
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Ads are micropayments that work. I don’t like them per se and run an ad blocker and PiHole, but the fact that others don’t allows me to micropay for a lot of content with my time.
    - ignoramous 6y ago
      > Ads are micropayments that work. One thing if those micro-payments end up enriching the creators, but another when blackholed into the coffers of a few tech cos.
    - ectopod 6y ago
      Surely you meant to say: > but the fact that others don’t allows them to micropay for a lot of content with their time. I'm not objecting. I do the same. But in what sense are you paying? I'm sure I'm not.
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        When I read a 5 minute Medium article, I'm paying with 5 minutes of my time. If I decide to bail out 1 minute into the article, I have still lost 1 minute of my time. The creator isn't getting any benefit from it, but I'm still paying.
- efreak 6y ago
  ＞ Because by their definition, All ads are tracking ads. John Gruber has an ad at daringfireball.net, currently for a company called Simris. IIRC the ad is pure text, not loaded by a script, and does not track you. Other blogs (usually security professionals ime) have text-based ads that are probably part of the theme in a static site generator.
  - ksec 6y ago
    I should have put /s at the end of that sentence. I know all of what you said, but somehow HN still thinks Ads are bad.