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This feels like an almost intentional misunderstanding.

by mvzvm 6y ago

gigatexal 6y ago
Pixel tracking on an internal customer page... scanning and uploading metadata about users backups? How much am I misunderstanding?
- mvzvm 6y ago
  > I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices so they sell customer metadata to Facebook This sentence, your thesis, is absurd. Where does it say they make money from selling data? Furthermore, "I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices" is a really strange foundation to leap from. Do you have any facts? Or are you just speculating on BackBlaze and making wild assumptions? > now that other like-minded crazies can find each other faster than ever You are right, there is nowhere else online where "crazies" gather - not 4chan, not reddit, not voat, not twitter, just Facebook?
  - gigatexal 6y ago
    The last point I’ll admit exposes my bias against Facebook. But the previous two points make no difference on why tracking is baked into an internal portal so I speculated as to the reasoning as anyone would do — it’s not a stretch to think that data owners could sell customer data to an aggregator like Facebook for an additional line item of revenue.
    - manigandham 6y ago
      Facebook does not, and never will, pay for data like this.
      - mnw21cam 6y ago
        Which raises the question - why would anyone ever include a Facebook tracking pixel in their web page, if it provides no benefits, and has a cost?
        manigandham 6y ago
        > "if it provides no benefits" Because it does? There are valid reasons for using the pixel in advertising.
  - goatinaboat 6y ago
    Where does it say they make money from selling data? What would be their motivation for just giving their customers data to Facebook for free?
    - suprfsat 6y ago
      Apparently it's incompetence, if they're unaware that they could have been making money on the deal.
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- busymom0 6y ago
  > I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices This is plain wrong. One of the reasons I was a fan of B2 was their tech and how they achieved such low costs: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-hidden-costs-of-s3-compatibility/ https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-h... https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-and-cloudflare-partner-to-provide-free-data-transfer/ https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-and-cloudflare-part... While this FB pixel debacle is obviously a very big screw up, it's pretty much a "screw up" and unintentional from what I understand so far. And they have fixed it already which is a positive step towards redemption. From my speculation - the screw up seems to have happened from including the googletagmanager. They probably only wanted it to stay on the home page of B2 (for ad conversion tracking if I were to guess), not on the dashboard itself after login. The screw up caused it to be on the dashboard too.

This feels like an almost intentional misunderstanding.

by mvzvm 6y ago

This feels like an almost intentional misunderstanding.

Pixel tracking on an internal customer page... scanning and uploading metadata about users backups? How much am I misunderstanding?

mvzvm 6y ago
> I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices so they sell customer metadata to Facebook This sentence, your thesis, is absurd. Where does it say they make money from selling data? Furthermore, "I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices" is a really strange foundation to leap from. Do you have any facts? Or are you just speculating on BackBlaze and making wild assumptions? > now that other like-minded crazies can find each other faster than ever You are right, there is nowhere else online where "crazies" gather - not 4chan, not reddit, not voat, not twitter, just Facebook?
- gigatexal 6y ago
  The last point I’ll admit exposes my bias against Facebook. But the previous two points make no difference on why tracking is baked into an internal portal so I speculated as to the reasoning as anyone would do — it’s not a stretch to think that data owners could sell customer data to an aggregator like Facebook for an additional line item of revenue.
  - manigandham 6y ago
    Facebook does not, and never will, pay for data like this.
    - mnw21cam 6y ago
      Which raises the question - why would anyone ever include a Facebook tracking pixel in their web page, if it provides no benefits, and has a cost?
      - manigandham 6y ago
        > "if it provides no benefits" Because it does? There are valid reasons for using the pixel in advertising.
- goatinaboat 6y ago
  Where does it say they make money from selling data? What would be their motivation for just giving their customers data to Facebook for free?
  - suprfsat 6y ago
    Apparently it's incompetence, if they're unaware that they could have been making money on the deal.
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busymom0 6y ago
> I guess they can’t afford to cover costs given current prices This is plain wrong. One of the reasons I was a fan of B2 was their tech and how they achieved such low costs: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-hidden-costs-of-s3-compatibility/ https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-h... https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-and-cloudflare-partner-to-provide-free-data-transfer/ https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-and-cloudflare-part... While this FB pixel debacle is obviously a very big screw up, it's pretty much a "screw up" and unintentional from what I understand so far. And they have fixed it already which is a positive step towards redemption. From my speculation - the screw up seems to have happened from including the googletagmanager. They probably only wanted it to stay on the home page of B2 (for ad conversion tracking if I were to guess), not on the dashboard itself after login. The screw up caused it to be on the dashboard too.