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The point of an ideological project (or any project, really) is to try and get everyone pulling in the same direction. GNU/FSF is an organization for one specif

The point of an ideological project (or any project, really) is to try and get everyone pulling in the same direction. GNU/FSF is an organization for one specific ideal: free software. It's not intended as a vehicle for any random ideal people care about.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
>It's not intended as a vehicle for any random ideal people care about. Who used it like that? Stallman's comments happened outside the organization, the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project. I can understand keeping other ideals out of the project, but in context you're telling people not to express other ideals.
- themacguffinman 6y ago
  > the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project Seems fine for unrelated Twitter randos to say whatever they want about RMS, but would be distracting and counterproductive for GNU/FSF to permanently ban RMS in support of Twitter randos' unrelated ideals. I never said or implied anything about stopping Twitter randos from expressing or doing whatever they want.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    I was asking you who used it as a vehicle... as the two people directly being discussed had not. I did not think you were trying to stop random people on twitter. I think you're answering that GNU/FSF used it improperly but am not certain.
    - themacguffinman 6y ago
      Yes, the people working for GNU/FSF started using GNU/FSF to punish RMS in support of other ideals. Twitter randos may have talked about it but it's up to the GNU/FSF to focus & act on it.
- RangerNS 6y ago
  ... in the name of the organization. And RMS's "pleasure cards" listing his office address and organizational email certainly indicate that his private activities are the organizations activities.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    Yes, he should have been reprimanded for using the organization's name to make a bad joke seemingly decades ago.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

>It's not intended as a vehicle for any random ideal people care about. Who used it like that? Stallman's comments happened outside the organization, the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project. I can understand keeping other ideals out of the project, but in context you're telling people not to express other ideals.

themacguffinman 6y ago
> the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project Seems fine for unrelated Twitter randos to say whatever they want about RMS, but would be distracting and counterproductive for GNU/FSF to permanently ban RMS in support of Twitter randos' unrelated ideals. I never said or implied anything about stopping Twitter randos from expressing or doing whatever they want.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  I was asking you who used it as a vehicle... as the two people directly being discussed had not. I did not think you were trying to stop random people on twitter. I think you're answering that GNU/FSF used it improperly but am not certain.
  - themacguffinman 6y ago
    Yes, the people working for GNU/FSF started using GNU/FSF to punish RMS in support of other ideals. Twitter randos may have talked about it but it's up to the GNU/FSF to focus & act on it.
RangerNS 6y ago
... in the name of the organization. And RMS's "pleasure cards" listing his office address and organizational email certainly indicate that his private activities are the organizations activities.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  Yes, he should have been reprimanded for using the organization's name to make a bad joke seemingly decades ago.