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The Internet has been cut in Myanmar for the 36th consecutive night
- mc32 6y agoThey're not stupid. Lenin showed them the way: Telephone Telegraph, Radio and Newspapers (and today TV, Internet and GSM/Cellular networks).
- walrus01 6y agoYou think the Myanmar junta are marxist-leninists? That's the weirdest perspective I've seen on it all year.
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- Gabriel_Martin 6y agoOr you could interpret their message to mean authoritarian..
- Zhenya 6y agoDoes it matter? Its authoritarian behavior regardless of the sales pitch.
- user982 6y agoYes, of course it matters. There are much closer examples temporally, politically, and physically that Myanmar would have actually learned from (e.g., India's Modi shutting down Kashmir's internet beginning in 2019). Trying to associate the actions of Myanmar's military junta with a movement a century past and on the opposite political spectrum is an obvious and tortured stretch by the GP and its upvoters to indirectly attack their current political enemies.
- Zhenya 6y agoThe OP wasn't associating with Lenin, just the method to take over and control a population. Surely you see the similarities - pedantism aside. Lenin was one of the first modern leader to use these tools.
- duxup 6y agoWhatever the authoritarian folks claim to be... their practices are often the same regardless.
- matthewmorgan 6y agoIt is said by some Burmese people that George Orwell wrote three books about Burma; Burmese days, Animal Farm, and 1984
- baybal2 6y agoWhich makes me to believe the country is beyond its own ability to recover. Every period of relative normality Burma had was ending in total mess when bad actors catch their breath, and strike back. Somebody else from outside must come, and fix it.
- john_moscow 6y ago"Somebody else" is too busy silencing the voices that raise concerns about negative long-term effects of gender transition, or calling out the forced "anti-racist" trainings that in fact increase the divide in the society instead of helping different people work together towards common goals.
- Causality1 6y agoYour position is that the reason we are not intervening in Myanmar is because we're too distracted by social justice and gender politics?
- WestOaklandfan 6y agoI would agree with such an interpretation, perhaps doing good is more than just creating existentialism around anybody being able to transition into anything. The people who're into these kinds of identity politics, seem to have priorities revolving around their identities, and the rest of their beliefs are skewed by their not particularly intellectual identities
- john_moscow 6y agoMy position is that there is something going on with humanity (post-industrialization? social media? too long time since a world war? something completely different?) that is incentivizing dark social patterns that are destructive in the long run. And that while we are all condemning this behavior on the other side of the globe, we ourselves are suffering from a variant of the same disease. And that we should focus on figuring out and fixing the root cause, if we do not want to share the fate of the countries we like calling "the 3rd World". My theory is that in order to respect each other, people have to need each other. Not as in "need a commoditized pair of hands", but as "need I person who's professional opinion is so important to me, that I can look over some personal quirks". And that person's self-esteem would then come from their professional opinion being needed and respected, so they wouldn't be forced to resort to victim Olympics as the only way to get attention. And the low interest rates and numerous bailouts are eroding this type of relation at an increasing pace.
- walrus01 6y agoCAIDA's IODA project has good data on Myanmar internet outages: https://ioda.caida.org/ https://ioda.caida.org/ https://ioda.caida.org/ioda/dashboard#view=inspect&entity=country/MM&lastView=overview https://ioda.caida.org/ioda/dashboard#view=inspect&entity=co...
- danellis 6y agoWhat's the point of only cutting it at night?
- elSidCampeador 6y agothey need it during the day for banks to carry out operations, etc.
- aaron695 6y agoExactly. It's not clear what's going on from the tweet or article. I think it's an interesting question. How much do you weaken the opposition from limiting the internet to periods. You can't stop chunks of information. Video still comes in and out. But you do stop the flow. For instance the West is less interested in day old protest footage, than 'Breaking'.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoAnd they're cutting it when the West is awake to consume something live.
- duxup 6y agoI would guess that you never weaken the core opposition, but sympathetic other folks working in the day... you might limit their exposure to the core folks.
- jeffgreco 6y agoWhen they’ve cut during the day they disrupt the whole economy, as well as their own communications. Great background here: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/in-myanmar-a-digital-savvy-nation-poses-a-new-challenge-for-the-military https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/in-myanm...
- jeffgreco 6y agoFurther background on the western tech the Myanmar military is using to maintain power: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/world/asia/myanmar-coup-military-surveillance.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/world/asia/myanmar-coup-m...
- xtian 6y agoWhy are these blocks getting more attention than Uganda’s? Is it because Myanmar is less friendly to the West or what?
- xbmcuser 6y agoMore or less what Myanmar so called democratic government was doing to its Muslim Rohingya population was forgotten as the government was democratic. India had cut of internet for months in Kashmir but little news in the western media. Even today Chinese atrocities against Uighur minorities are talked about every week but no one talks about Kashmir or the other minorities in India being marginalized by the current Modi government. With the internet and all the news sources available you realize all the good evil, black and white paraded about in the media or global organizations has little to do with actuall ground realities but mostly propagandas of different countries and interests.
- xtian 6y agoChinese “atrocities” against Uighurs are talked about every week because it’s a story invented and pushed by the US state department. It’s the WMDs in Iraq of this decade. My understanding is that the Rohingyan genocide in Myanmar is legitimate, but I’m curious why Myanmar is receiving so much attention at this point.
- ksec 6y agoThis reminded me of the earlier story about not getting deferral request [1] due to Internet cut off from a student in Myanmar. [1] https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/03/york-university-professor-myanmar-student/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/03/york-university-professo...
- captn3m0 6y agoIndia[0] still holds the record at 159 days! [0]: https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/indias-top-court-has-declared-the-record-breaking-159-day-long-kashmir-internet-blackout-illegal/articleshow/73188504.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/indias-top-court-ha...
- AmIDev 6y agoThe Burmese people kept quiet, and possibly supported the genocide of rohingyas. Now the chicken has come home to roost. Their neighbours, us Indians, made similar mistake with Kashmiris, and now we are paying the price for it as the whole country has become authoritarian.[1] Classic examples of Martin Niemöller's poem. [1] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/research-organisation-declares-india-as-an-electoral-autocracy/cid/1809175 https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/research-organisation-d...