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I sure did! Those CPAP ventilators were the wrong type, so Tesla had to turn around and send 100 ventilators made by someone else. That's the point, right? Tesl
by rexreed 6y ago
I sure did! Those CPAP ventilators were the wrong type, so Tesla had to turn around and send 100 ventilators made by someone else. That's the point, right? Tesla thought they could make ventilators. They couldn't. So they just got someone else's ventilators. It proves the point. Tech CEOs, even as fabulous as ya boy Elon can't just hubris their way into medical devices.
From the article linked above:
"According to The Week, after CEO Elon Musk tweeted March 31st that he had “extra FDA-approved ventilators” ready to ship out, Tesla didn’t ship out actual ventilators, it sent machines more closely related to C-PAP devices called BiPAP or B-PAP machines, made by ResMed. C-PAP and Bi-PAP devices are indeed used in hospitals for medical breathing issues, as well as in homes for ailments such as sleep apnea. They use a mask that covers the users entire face or just the nose and mouth, but they are not effective for the critical symptoms of COVID-19, which requires ventilators that include intubation, or the insertion of tubes into the lungs of the patient."
- fallingknife 6y agoAccording to John's Hopkins a bi-pap is a type of ventilator: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/bipap https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-t... And the hospital seems to think they were useful. And even if it was a complete failure, at least they tried, which is more than most companies.
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- stordoff 6y ago> They use a mask that covers the users entire face or just the nose and mouth, but they are not effective for the critical symptoms of COVID-19 CPAP is used by the NHS for Covid-19 to try and avoid the need for invasion ventilation, even in the ICU (examples [1], [2]). I was in intensive care for 10 days, and was on CPAP (100% oxygen) for the majority of the time. [1] https://www.buckshealthcare.nhs.uk/Downloads/AA_COVID_19/COVID_19_Medicine/role%20of%20cpap.pdf https://www.buckshealthcare.nhs.uk/Downloads/AA_COVID_19/COV... [2] https://www.sign.ac.uk/media/1757/sg_cpap_guidance_version_2.pdf https://www.sign.ac.uk/media/1757/sg_cpap_guidance_version_2...
- mike_d 6y agoYes BiPAP and CPAP definitely filled a gap. Had your condition worsened you likely would have been intubated and moved to a ventilator.
- stordoff 6y agoYep - I was told fairly early on that if I didn't start improving on CPAP in a reasonable timeframe, or I worsened at all, I would be ventilated (SpO2 90% with occasional dips to 88-89% on CPAP, SpO2 was 78% on admission; arterial blood gases were monitored, but I've no idea what the readings were).