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Selam Jie Gano, a female at MIT when he worked there wrote: “There is no single person that is so deserving of praise their comments deprecating others should
by bigtones 6y ago
Selam Jie Gano, a female at MIT when he worked there wrote:
“There is no single person that is so deserving of praise their comments deprecating others should be allowed to slide. Particularly when those comments are excuses about rape, assault, and child sex trafficking.”
- mssundaram 6y agoIs something cut off in that quote? I don't understand how to read it
- vharuck 6y ago"There is no single person that is so deserving of praise [that] their comments deprecating others should be allowed to slide. Particularly when those comments are excuses about rape, assault, and child sex trafficking.”
- mssundaram 6y agoAh! Thank you
- etrabroline 6y agoGreat quote. I think a large fraction of male programmers would disagree with Selam Jie Gano's characterization of RMS's statements. These kinds of "culture war" battles should not be happening in GNU. Free Software should be happening and people should be willing to leave these disagreements at the door. If you aren't, I am significantly less interested in working with you and I suspect many GNU contributors are as well.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoI don't get this. "You should abandon any other ideals you have when working for our ideological project."
- themacguffinman 6y agoThe point of an ideological project (or any project, really) is to try and get everyone pulling in the same direction. GNU/FSF is an organization for one specific ideal: free software. It's not intended as a vehicle for any random ideal people care about.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago>It's not intended as a vehicle for any random ideal people care about. Who used it like that? Stallman's comments happened outside the organization, the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project. I can understand keeping other ideals out of the project, but in context you're telling people not to express other ideals.
- themacguffinman 6y ago> the tweet was from someone I think unrelated to the project Seems fine for unrelated Twitter randos to say whatever they want about RMS, but would be distracting and counterproductive for GNU/FSF to permanently ban RMS in support of Twitter randos' unrelated ideals. I never said or implied anything about stopping Twitter randos from expressing or doing whatever they want.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoI was asking you who used it as a vehicle... as the two people directly being discussed had not. I did not think you were trying to stop random people on twitter. I think you're answering that GNU/FSF used it improperly but am not certain.
- themacguffinman 6y agoYes, the people working for GNU/FSF started using GNU/FSF to punish RMS in support of other ideals. Twitter randos may have talked about it but it's up to the GNU/FSF to focus & act on it.
- wishdasher 6y agoIf you read her post, she was an undergraduate in Mechanical Engineering, and by her own admittance did not ever work nor interact with RMS at MIT.
- higerordermap 6y agoTypical wokeism
- dralley 6y agoThis guy, however, did. https://medium.com/@thomas.bushnell/a-reflection-on-the-departure-of-rms-18e6a835fd84 https://medium.com/@thomas.bushnell/a-reflection-on-the-depa...
- afarviral 6y agoThis quote stuck out: > I feel very sad for him. He’s a tragic figure. He is one of the most brilliant people I’ve met, who I have always thought desperately craved friendship and camaraderie, and seems to have less and less of it all the time. This is all his doing; nobody does it to him. But it’s still very sad. As far as I can tell, he believes his entire life’s work is a failure. The auther (Thomas Bushnell) goes on to say the decision (to remove RMS) was the right one but for the totality of RMSs behavior over the years, not the incidents highlighted by the media.