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I have never in my life seen so much hostility generated by good intentions as we are seeing now during this woke revolution. I repeat - never! And I lived thro

I have never in my life seen so much hostility generated by good intentions as we are seeing now during this woke revolution. I repeat - never! And I lived through collapses of two failed states.

phkahler 6y ago
>> I have never in my life seen so much hostility generated by good intentions as we are seeing now during this woke revolution. The "woke" don't actually have good intentions. There are several motivations, but good intent just seems to be an excuse for the hostility you mention.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  The vast majority of people you would write off as ""woke"" do have good intentions. There's just a very loud minority just as there are in any political movement.
  - AzzieElbab 6y ago
    I actually can see where the person you are replying to is coming from. That loud minority can be viewed as leadership, and they seem to fall into three categories- grifters, bullies, and burn the world types
- NateEag 6y ago
  That's a strong statement about a whole lot of people. Maybe you should limit that to "The 'woke' people I know."
astrange 6y ago
There's nothing new about wokeness. It's just what American Protestantism looks like; Americans have always been this way. Even used to be called the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes
- AzzieElbab 6y ago
  Interesting, but woke beliefs are based on European deconstructionism and the goals and methods look more like post-marxist/maoist
  - TMWNN 6y ago
    Nothing "post" about it. Wokeism's forced public self-abasement via Twitter is the classic Communist struggle session put online.
rayiner 6y ago
They may have good intentions, but they lack respect for established norms, and spend little time thinking about the function and purpose of those norms. They kick over Chesterton's fence and assume it was there because Chesterton was some sort -ist: https://fs.blog/2020/03/chestertons-fence/ https://fs.blog/2020/03/chestertons-fence/
- deleted 6y ago
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- AzzieElbab 6y ago
  That is what revolutions are about, no?
  - rayiner 6y ago
    Only some revolutions involve unfocused rage at existing norms, and they’re usually bad ones (like the French Revolution).

I have never in my life seen so much hostility generated by good intentions as we are seeing now during this woke revolution. I repeat - never! And I lived through collapses of two failed states.

phkahler 6y ago

>> I have never in my life seen so much hostility generated by good intentions as we are seeing now during this woke revolution. The "woke" don't actually have good intentions. There are several motivations, but good intent just seems to be an excuse for the hostility you mention.

mhh__ 6y ago
The vast majority of people you would write off as ""woke"" do have good intentions. There's just a very loud minority just as there are in any political movement.
- AzzieElbab 6y ago
  I actually can see where the person you are replying to is coming from. That loud minority can be viewed as leadership, and they seem to fall into three categories- grifters, bullies, and burn the world types
NateEag 6y ago
That's a strong statement about a whole lot of people. Maybe you should limit that to "The 'woke' people I know."

astrange 6y ago

There's nothing new about wokeness. It's just what American Protestantism looks like; Americans have always been this way. Even used to be called the same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Awakes

AzzieElbab 6y ago
Interesting, but woke beliefs are based on European deconstructionism and the goals and methods look more like post-marxist/maoist
- TMWNN 6y ago
  Nothing "post" about it. Wokeism's forced public self-abasement via Twitter is the classic Communist struggle session put online.

rayiner 6y ago

They may have good intentions, but they lack respect for established norms, and spend little time thinking about the function and purpose of those norms. They kick over Chesterton's fence and assume it was there because Chesterton was some sort -ist: https://fs.blog/2020/03/chestertons-fence/ https://fs.blog/2020/03/chestertons-fence/

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AzzieElbab 6y ago
That is what revolutions are about, no?
- rayiner 6y ago
  Only some revolutions involve unfocused rage at existing norms, and they’re usually bad ones (like the French Revolution).