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Yes, it was weird that you mentioned Taiwan when I mentioned China. Tesla is in the heart of Silicon Valley. Facebook, Google, Apple, Netflix, Uber, Twitter,

Yes, it was weird that you mentioned Taiwan when I mentioned China. Tesla is in the heart of Silicon Valley. Facebook, Google, Apple, Netflix, Uber, Twitter, the list goes on and on. China takes US ideas and copies them, and then releases them in China where they don't have to compete against the US originals. It's a simple fact.

onethought 6y ago
So what is Tencent a copy of? And which application does wechat copy? Or Weibo? What is Huawei a copy of? Your simple fact, sounds awfully like racism.
- ping_pong 6y ago
  Tencent started as a rip-off of ICQ. Their application name was literally called OICQ. Then they became a rip off of Zynga. Tencent succeeds because it's safely protected by China, but it would never have gained enough marketshare without that monopoly. That's my entire point. Huawei is a ripoff of Cisco. It's another company protected by the Chinese government. And you forget Didi, which is a simple rip off of Uber. Uber was competing against Didi and would have won, except the Chinese government backed Didi and Uber decided it couldn't survive its source of money so they gave up. Didi even engaged in corporate spying, by sending their workers into Uber China to work there, sabotage it, and steal internal data. Didi couldn't win without cheating. The fact you pull the race card is very sad. It means you're losing the argument.
  - onethought 6y ago
    So Wechat...? Also msn messenger was a copy of icq as well... as was AOL instant messenger. But China at the copy-cats? Huawei are a copy of Cisco!? Yet Huawei make half the worlds telecoms and Cisco don’t. Uber was always shit in China. Didi was more like Uber X and Uber copied them... Didi won from the beginning. No, not a race card. You are being racist. Applying a higher standard to Chinese than you apply to Americans. That’s called prejudice, and racial prejudice is racism. Edit: To be clear, I’m referring to Ubers original Premium service in China. I’m not sure they even got to Uber X in China.
    - ping_pong 6y ago
      I'm Asian, so it looks like you're the racist for assuming I'm white. I'm not even American. Anyway, you keep thinking what you want to think, you're entitled to your opinion. But it's not backed up by actual facts, so you're not living in reality, but that's also your right.
      - onethought 6y ago
        I never assumed you were white. Just pointed out you were racist. You’ve now double downed on it with some strange implication that Asians can’t be racist. Actually everything I’ve said is backed by fact, please point out where I’m factually incorrect.

onethought 6y ago

So what is Tencent a copy of? And which application does wechat copy? Or Weibo? What is Huawei a copy of? Your simple fact, sounds awfully like racism.

ping_pong 6y ago
Tencent started as a rip-off of ICQ. Their application name was literally called OICQ. Then they became a rip off of Zynga. Tencent succeeds because it's safely protected by China, but it would never have gained enough marketshare without that monopoly. That's my entire point. Huawei is a ripoff of Cisco. It's another company protected by the Chinese government. And you forget Didi, which is a simple rip off of Uber. Uber was competing against Didi and would have won, except the Chinese government backed Didi and Uber decided it couldn't survive its source of money so they gave up. Didi even engaged in corporate spying, by sending their workers into Uber China to work there, sabotage it, and steal internal data. Didi couldn't win without cheating. The fact you pull the race card is very sad. It means you're losing the argument.
- onethought 6y ago
  So Wechat...? Also msn messenger was a copy of icq as well... as was AOL instant messenger. But China at the copy-cats? Huawei are a copy of Cisco!? Yet Huawei make half the worlds telecoms and Cisco don’t. Uber was always shit in China. Didi was more like Uber X and Uber copied them... Didi won from the beginning. No, not a race card. You are being racist. Applying a higher standard to Chinese than you apply to Americans. That’s called prejudice, and racial prejudice is racism. Edit: To be clear, I’m referring to Ubers original Premium service in China. I’m not sure they even got to Uber X in China.
  - ping_pong 6y ago
    I'm Asian, so it looks like you're the racist for assuming I'm white. I'm not even American. Anyway, you keep thinking what you want to think, you're entitled to your opinion. But it's not backed up by actual facts, so you're not living in reality, but that's also your right.
    - onethought 6y ago
      I never assumed you were white. Just pointed out you were racist. You’ve now double downed on it with some strange implication that Asians can’t be racist. Actually everything I’ve said is backed by fact, please point out where I’m factually incorrect.