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This just reveals that colleges simply aren’t doing anything that can be called tuition. If the college did any amount of meaningful in-person teaching, it wou
by zepto 6y ago
This just reveals that colleges simply aren’t doing anything that can be called tuition.
If the college did any amount of meaningful in-person teaching, it would be immediately obvious that a student had not written their own coursework.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoColleges are simply doing something called collecting money so there's no incentive to fix this problem. And it is a problem, because it means the output of colleges is increasingly just noise. It will become even more of a problem in the future, because you can't run a civilisation packed full of 'qualified' people who can't do shit. Except cheat.
- jonnycomputer 6y agoYou're sort of assuming people are paying for A+ quality work. But they're not stupid. For many, a B is quite fine.
- zepto 6y agoIt’s not obvious what grades have to do with anything. I’m referring to the idea that if you are teaching people you know enough about them to recognize what they’ve written.
- aidenn0 6y agoI had multiple classes with over 300 students. No way you get to know them all in 16 weeks.
- lukev 6y agoThat's precisely the problem though. Genuine tutelage requires a relationship with the student. A 300 person class might as well be an online course, for all practical purposes.
- aidenn0 6y agoThis was when internet was either dial-up or not at all, so the class could not have practicably been online (I remember downloading a 40 minute video heavily compressed with quicktime; it took multiple days).
- zepto 6y agoSure but clearly that’s not how it is now, and yet colleges charge vastly more than they did in your day.
- zepto 6y agoExactly my point. If you don’t get to know them, it’s just a one-way performance that may as well be video.
- jonnycomputer 6y agoWhat I mean specifically is that students aren't necessarily paying for work that couldn't be reasonably attributed to them. It's pretty obvious when, for example, an essay is grad-level quality.
- zepto 6y agoThe point isn’t about detecting fraud - it’s about teachers knowing their students.