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Hawaii, the only state that requires a COVID test within 36 hours of flying there? I mean, of course they'd have the lowest cases per capita when they're the on
by mynameisvlad 6y ago
Hawaii, the only state that requires a COVID test within 36 hours of flying there? I mean, of course they'd have the lowest cases per capita when they're the only ones actively refusing entry to those who have it.
- throwaway894345 6y agoHow many entry points does Hawaii have compared to the average state? How do those points of entry compare in terms of staff and systems to operate those restrictions? Hawaii gets a lot more mileage out of its restrictions than Iowa is going to do. We can acknowledge these differences without conceding that restrictions aren’t worth the squeeze; it just means that New Zealand isn’t a good reference point.
- ghaff 6y agoA fair number of states did have travel restrictions in place but there were oodles of exceptions and AFAIK no real enforcement although it probably did limit cross-border travel some.
- throwaway894345 6y agoRight, but if all states had a handful of ports of entry manned by TSA who could enforce those restrictions and supply chains that were already inadvertently optimized to prevent disease transmission, then the US would probably look a lot more like New Zealand!
- ghaff 6y agoAnd if I looked like an eagle I could flap my wings and fly. We didn't even shutdown widespread commercial traffic between the US and Canada (although otherwise travel was largely shut down).
- throwaway894345 6y ago> And if I looked like an eagle I could flap my wings and fly. ??? > We didn't even shutdown widespread commercial traffic between the US and Canada (although otherwise travel was largely shut down). Why bother? It’s not like any significant number of transmissions are coming via commercial transit with Canada. I don’t pretend to be an epidemiologist but it seems pretty intuitive that a small island nation and one of the largest countries are going to differ.
- ghaff 6y agoI think I misread the tone of your reply. Yes, the situations are nothing like the same and the idea that the US could have been just like NZ if only is silly.
- war1025 6y agoAlmost like having strong borders is useful. Not a very compelling argument when the same people most in favor of Covid restrictions also spent five years calling Republicans the devil for wanting to reinforce our borders. Also the US has open borders between states on the mainland. Any individual state besides Hawaii never had even the possibility of isolating themselves.
- mynameisvlad 6y agoWhat does building a wall have to do with policies to prevent the spread of contagious diseases? Jack squat.