5 ms·

Miraculous New Spray On Skin Technology Treats Burns Without Scars

68 points by ph0rque 15y ago

JoeAltmaier 15y ago
Written as a marketing piece. But the technology seems impressive.
giberson 15y ago
Does any one know if this technology, or other technology like skin grafts can be applied post scaring? IE, is it possible to remove severely scarred skin (by cutting it off) and then use skin grafts to replace it? Just wondering if these technologies can be backwards applied to existing skin damage, or if they need to be executed relatively soon after initial skin damage.
- ph0rque 15y ago
  I've been thinking the same thing... maybe lightly abraid the skin and then spray?
- n9com 15y ago
  pretty sure it can since it is used to treat skin pigmentation disorders too
- chime 15y ago
  Check out http://www.kelo-cote.com/ http://www.kelo-cote.com/ - it is FDA approved. It is one of the products we made at my past job. It is not a miracle cure but it works.
  - lupatus 15y ago
    Any idea about how well it works with stretch marks?
brianbreslin 15y ago
this I'm pretty sure was mentioned here before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2173420 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2173420
rmah 15y ago
This is an aussie company traded on the aussie exchange as AVH and in the US pink sheets as AVMXF. Their quarterly report shows just under $1mil in revenues with substantial losses. They do not yet have FDA approval in the US but is conducting clinical trials. If they're smart, they'll sell their tech to a larger US firm for distribution.
dstorrs 15y ago
I really want this to work, but it seems too good to be true, which bring my Dubious Dave side to the front: Sources: Avita Medical, Wikipedia, New South Wales Dept. of Health Image credits: Avita Medical If it's actually been successful at treating "thousands of patients in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and Australia (among many other countries)", why is New South Wales the only potentially medically-reliable / non-conflicted source? Why do all of the source links go to top level pages instead of specific data? I really hope that it's real and that they get the approvals, though.
- shasta 15y ago
  It has the downside that when you use it, someone somewhere, whom you've never met, dies.
- zinkem 15y ago
  Here's a news posting from an academic site: http://www.mirm.pitt.edu/news/article.asp?qEmpID=328 http://www.mirm.pitt.edu/news/article.asp?qEmpID=328 Not exactly what you asked for, but I think this is the research institute where some or all of this technology was developed. The skin gun was featured on an episode of National Geographic a few months ago. This and other types of organ replacement using adult stem cells are becoming a reality very quickly. Many biologists think the next 50 years will yield advancements in bio-tech at the pace we've seen advancements in computers in the last 50. I think its pretty exciting.
maxharris 15y ago
From the article: "Now that you know how ReCell works and all the promise it holds, here’s the bad news: it’s currently not FDA-approved for use in the US! The website of Avita Medical claims that FDA approval is pending, but it’s not clear why it hasn’t been approved yet. Having been used successfully on thousands of patients in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and Australia (among many other countries) should help convince the FDA that this is a proven and worthwhile medical advancement." If I had a serious disfiguring burn right now, I would want the freedom to choose for myself whether or not this is something I want to try. The principle is: it's my life, not some committee's. The responsibility for deciding what I do with my own body is ultimately mine. Our laws should reflect this fact.
- merraksh 15y ago
  "Committees" are in place to check whether these results are sound. Letting people use their "freedom" do to themselves as instructed by a post on the Singularity Hub may lead to some of them die, for instance of some unexpected allergy.
  - voidmain 15y ago
    Why are you horrified by the idea that someone might suffer from their own mistakes, but not by the idea that they might suffer from the mistakes of others?
    - merraksh 15y ago
      I'm not sure what you mean by "others" here, but most drugs have side effects. AFAIK, until all of them have been sorted out, using an un-FDA-checked drug could heal your skin OR give, for instance, anaphylactic shock to all, some, or just one single patient. I understand that if "this was approved in Scotland etc." then it was already tested by some other committee. However, what if Scotland has a different list of drugs, excluding one that's approved in the US and that could lead to serious problems when used together with this spray?
  - bh42222 15y ago
stevetjoa 15y ago
One company, Remedium Technologies, is developing something similar -- a foam spray to control bleeding: http://www.remediumtechnologies.com http://www.remediumtechnologies.com

68 points by ph0rque 15y ago

Written as a marketing piece. But the technology seems impressive.

Does any one know if this technology, or other technology like skin grafts can be applied post scaring? IE, is it possible to remove severely scarred skin (by cutting it off) and then use skin grafts to replace it? Just wondering if these technologies can be backwards applied to existing skin damage, or if they need to be executed relatively soon after initial skin damage.

ph0rque 15y ago
I've been thinking the same thing... maybe lightly abraid the skin and then spray?
n9com 15y ago
pretty sure it can since it is used to treat skin pigmentation disorders too
chime 15y ago
Check out http://www.kelo-cote.com/ http://www.kelo-cote.com/ - it is FDA approved. It is one of the products we made at my past job. It is not a miracle cure but it works.
- lupatus 15y ago
  Any idea about how well it works with stretch marks?

brianbreslin 15y ago

this I'm pretty sure was mentioned here before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2173420 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2173420

rmah 15y ago

This is an aussie company traded on the aussie exchange as AVH and in the US pink sheets as AVMXF. Their quarterly report shows just under $1mil in revenues with substantial losses. They do not yet have FDA approval in the US but is conducting clinical trials. If they're smart, they'll sell their tech to a larger US firm for distribution.

dstorrs 15y ago

I really want this to work, but it seems too good to be true, which bring my Dubious Dave side to the front: Sources: Avita Medical, Wikipedia, New South Wales Dept. of Health Image credits: Avita Medical If it's actually been successful at treating "thousands of patients in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and Australia (among many other countries)", why is New South Wales the only potentially medically-reliable / non-conflicted source? Why do all of the source links go to top level pages instead of specific data? I really hope that it's real and that they get the approvals, though.

shasta 15y ago
It has the downside that when you use it, someone somewhere, whom you've never met, dies.
zinkem 15y ago
Here's a news posting from an academic site: http://www.mirm.pitt.edu/news/article.asp?qEmpID=328 http://www.mirm.pitt.edu/news/article.asp?qEmpID=328 Not exactly what you asked for, but I think this is the research institute where some or all of this technology was developed. The skin gun was featured on an episode of National Geographic a few months ago. This and other types of organ replacement using adult stem cells are becoming a reality very quickly. Many biologists think the next 50 years will yield advancements in bio-tech at the pace we've seen advancements in computers in the last 50. I think its pretty exciting.

maxharris 15y ago

From the article: "Now that you know how ReCell works and all the promise it holds, here’s the bad news: it’s currently not FDA-approved for use in the US! The website of Avita Medical claims that FDA approval is pending, but it’s not clear why it hasn’t been approved yet. Having been used successfully on thousands of patients in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, and Australia (among many other countries) should help convince the FDA that this is a proven and worthwhile medical advancement." If I had a serious disfiguring burn right now, I would want the freedom to choose for myself whether or not this is something I want to try. The principle is: it's my life, not some committee's. The responsibility for deciding what I do with my own body is ultimately mine. Our laws should reflect this fact.

merraksh 15y ago
"Committees" are in place to check whether these results are sound. Letting people use their "freedom" do to themselves as instructed by a post on the Singularity Hub may lead to some of them die, for instance of some unexpected allergy.
- voidmain 15y ago
  Why are you horrified by the idea that someone might suffer from their own mistakes, but not by the idea that they might suffer from the mistakes of others?
  - merraksh 15y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean by "others" here, but most drugs have side effects. AFAIK, until all of them have been sorted out, using an un-FDA-checked drug could heal your skin OR give, for instance, anaphylactic shock to all, some, or just one single patient. I understand that if "this was approved in Scotland etc." then it was already tested by some other committee. However, what if Scotland has a different list of drugs, excluding one that's approved in the US and that could lead to serious problems when used together with this spray?
- bh42222 15y ago

stevetjoa 15y ago

One company, Remedium Technologies, is developing something similar -- a foam spray to control bleeding: http://www.remediumtechnologies.com http://www.remediumtechnologies.com