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Went back to Firefox about a year ago, it's sometimes painful but overall the experience is very decent, I only use Chrome for Node debugging now. "Remember th

Went back to Firefox about a year ago, it's sometimes painful but overall the experience is very decent, I only use Chrome for Node debugging now. "Remember that as it is a shame to be surprised if the fig-tree produces figs."

neogodless 6y ago
Main pain points: - sometimes sites are built in a weird way and something like document download doesn't work, modals/content loading misbehave - HomeDepot.com; about 30% of the time when I visit that site, I cannot successfully Add to Cart... why it works sometimes and not others is a great mystery! - recently was working through a React/Redux tutorial and was put off that the developer assumed you were using Chrome in your development workflow (OK this isn't a typical browser usage pain point, but it lowered my opinion of the tutorial author...) - reCaptcha is much more obnoxious when you're not a Chrome/Google user; no doubt the same tools you use to compartmentalize your online behavior to separate it from Google's prying eyes is why that tool is so cruel to Firefox users - Gmail.com is painfully, dreadfully slow (I just use Thunderbird instead)
- berberous 6y ago
  Do you have different adblockers installed or lots of Firefox extensions installed? All of these seem inconsistent with my experience. I’d recommend a clean install without ad blockers, see if these still happen, and then layer back in your extensions one by one.
  - neogodless 6y ago
    uBlock Origin, Facebook containers, multi-account containers, Bitwarden. I've tried disabling uBlock Origin for the Home Depot cart issue, but it still occurs. Can you be more specific with how these are inconsistent with your experience? Since I said these things sometimes happen, it sounds like you just have not experienced these yet. Are you saying it's not possible someone else experienced these?
    - AstralStorm 6y ago
      Containers are effective at making Google cookies unfresh, as is uBlock disabling Google analytics spyware. That is sufficient to trigger the captcha unless you're actively logged into Google in the container.
      - neogodless 6y ago
        Exactly my point! Google + reCaptcha is one of those things that says "if you're a good Google conformist and fall in line with our needs for data collection we can use to make truckloads of money, here's your ticket to the I'm A Human express train for using the internet!" I may not have been clear in my original comment, but I wasn't blaming Firefox for the pain points; just pointing them out.

neogodless 6y ago

Main pain points: - sometimes sites are built in a weird way and something like document download doesn't work, modals/content loading misbehave - HomeDepot.com; about 30% of the time when I visit that site, I cannot successfully Add to Cart... why it works sometimes and not others is a great mystery! - recently was working through a React/Redux tutorial and was put off that the developer assumed you were using Chrome in your development workflow (OK this isn't a typical browser usage pain point, but it lowered my opinion of the tutorial author...) - reCaptcha is much more obnoxious when you're not a Chrome/Google user; no doubt the same tools you use to compartmentalize your online behavior to separate it from Google's prying eyes is why that tool is so cruel to Firefox users - Gmail.com is painfully, dreadfully slow (I just use Thunderbird instead)

berberous 6y ago
Do you have different adblockers installed or lots of Firefox extensions installed? All of these seem inconsistent with my experience. I’d recommend a clean install without ad blockers, see if these still happen, and then layer back in your extensions one by one.
- neogodless 6y ago
  uBlock Origin, Facebook containers, multi-account containers, Bitwarden. I've tried disabling uBlock Origin for the Home Depot cart issue, but it still occurs. Can you be more specific with how these are inconsistent with your experience? Since I said these things sometimes happen, it sounds like you just have not experienced these yet. Are you saying it's not possible someone else experienced these?
  - AstralStorm 6y ago
    Containers are effective at making Google cookies unfresh, as is uBlock disabling Google analytics spyware. That is sufficient to trigger the captcha unless you're actively logged into Google in the container.
    - neogodless 6y ago
      Exactly my point! Google + reCaptcha is one of those things that says "if you're a good Google conformist and fall in line with our needs for data collection we can use to make truckloads of money, here's your ticket to the I'm A Human express train for using the internet!" I may not have been clear in my original comment, but I wasn't blaming Firefox for the pain points; just pointing them out.