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The iPhones didn't see a price drop after charger removal since apple said it was for environmental reasons it should be obvious the price should have been redu

The iPhones didn't see a price drop after charger removal since apple said it was for environmental reasons it should be obvious the price should have been reduced. same goes for earpods. can't believe no one directly asked apple this.

Google234 6y ago
You think it should be illegal to raise prices?
- jamescontrol 6y ago
  “Hey, we usually give you this extra stuff, but now we removed it because we want to charge money for it instead, also the environment”
  - Google234 6y ago
    You don’t know if that’s true and Apple hasn’t hidden the fact that they removed it.
  - toomanybeersies 6y ago
    It's a new version of the iPhone, with a new price. It would be a different case if Apple stopped including the charger and earpods with the iPhone 11.
    - xgbi 6y ago
      They should be required to mark it accordingly on the box with bold marking, on the front face: “I come without charger and without earplugs”
    - gnicholas 6y ago
      IIRC, they did stop including it with the SE (or some other model that wasn't refreshed at the time the policy was instituted).
- xgbi 6y ago
  I think that saying it is for the environment and increasing prices while removing things from the box is false advertising and should be fined. Also, it should be marked prominently on the box that the device doesn’t come with a charger or earplugs and won’t be self-sufficient. Let’s just regulate by making any device sold without charger display a 2x2cm logo on the box saying « I come without charger ». I don’t buy a car expecting it to be missing tires or wheel.
  - ThatPlayer 6y ago
    Expectations do change though. In the UK, it used to be the expectation that appliances came with no power plug at all.
Someone 6y ago
FTA: “While the iPhone 12 mini costs $729 in the U.S., in Brazil the same phone is around $1,200. Back in 2019 when Apple introduced the iPhone 11, it started at $799, while in Brazil it also cost around $1,200.” I see no evidence for “no price reduction” there. It’s “iPhone 11 with charger” versus “iPhone 12 without charger” (AFAIK, they never sold the 12 with a charger). Also, average top of the line smartphone prices have gone up world wide. Also FTA: “The depreciation of the Brazilian Real and the pandemic helped to increase the U.S. dollar over Brazil’s currency.” I guess that could easily explain why the 12 mini is cheaper than the 11 in the USA, but equally priced in Brazil.
- tumblewit 6y ago
  Hmm smart... the bigger problem however is that users buy 1$ chargers at local gas stores and thats gonna destroy their phones. One might think a person spending 800$ on a phone may spend 20$ on a charger but its quite easy for them to buy a counterfeit being ignorant at a local store cause it didn't come with one breaking their phone which is a far higher risk than anything in my opinion. Of course removing the port itself will solve this which is probably when they should have removed the charger.

Google234 6y ago

You think it should be illegal to raise prices?

jamescontrol 6y ago
“Hey, we usually give you this extra stuff, but now we removed it because we want to charge money for it instead, also the environment”
- Google234 6y ago
  You don’t know if that’s true and Apple hasn’t hidden the fact that they removed it.
- toomanybeersies 6y ago
  It's a new version of the iPhone, with a new price. It would be a different case if Apple stopped including the charger and earpods with the iPhone 11.
  - xgbi 6y ago
    They should be required to mark it accordingly on the box with bold marking, on the front face: “I come without charger and without earplugs”
  - gnicholas 6y ago
    IIRC, they did stop including it with the SE (or some other model that wasn't refreshed at the time the policy was instituted).
xgbi 6y ago
I think that saying it is for the environment and increasing prices while removing things from the box is false advertising and should be fined. Also, it should be marked prominently on the box that the device doesn’t come with a charger or earplugs and won’t be self-sufficient. Let’s just regulate by making any device sold without charger display a 2x2cm logo on the box saying « I come without charger ». I don’t buy a car expecting it to be missing tires or wheel.
- ThatPlayer 6y ago
  Expectations do change though. In the UK, it used to be the expectation that appliances came with no power plug at all.

Someone 6y ago

FTA: “While the iPhone 12 mini costs $729 in the U.S., in Brazil the same phone is around $1,200. Back in 2019 when Apple introduced the iPhone 11, it started at $799, while in Brazil it also cost around $1,200.” I see no evidence for “no price reduction” there. It’s “iPhone 11 with charger” versus “iPhone 12 without charger” (AFAIK, they never sold the 12 with a charger). Also, average top of the line smartphone prices have gone up world wide. Also FTA: “The depreciation of the Brazilian Real and the pandemic helped to increase the U.S. dollar over Brazil’s currency.” I guess that could easily explain why the 12 mini is cheaper than the 11 in the USA, but equally priced in Brazil.

tumblewit 6y ago
Hmm smart... the bigger problem however is that users buy 1$ chargers at local gas stores and thats gonna destroy their phones. One might think a person spending 800$ on a phone may spend 20$ on a charger but its quite easy for them to buy a counterfeit being ignorant at a local store cause it didn't come with one breaking their phone which is a far higher risk than anything in my opinion. Of course removing the port itself will solve this which is probably when they should have removed the charger.