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This is pretty tangential, but I don't understand why there isn't a roguelike framework available for Emacs. It seems like the perfect roguelike platform for pl

This is pretty tangential, but I don't understand why there isn't a roguelike framework available for Emacs. It seems like the perfect roguelike platform for playtesting and hacking on and would on-board a lot of new people into the Emacsen ecology without any real difficulty. The standard roguelike library libtocd has bindings for every other language--why not elisp?

catern 6y ago
I've wondered the same thing! In particular, the highly polished and powerful interfaces of some roguelikes (DCSS comes to mind) strongly remind me of Emacs. It seems like the scriptability and power of Emacs interfaces is a natural fit for roguelikes.
jordigh 6y ago
Hm, there's nethack-mode, but that's not what you mean, is it? You want a framework for building roguelikes, not for playing a particular one?
podiki 6y ago
There is dungeon-mode [0]. (I spotted this over on r/emacs [1], and it's on the FSF directory [2]) [0] https://github.com/dungeon-mode/game https://github.com/dungeon-mode/game [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/jar7tz/dungeonmode_f https://old.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/jar7tz/dungeonmode_f... [2] https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Dungeon-mode https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Dungeon-mode
jonnycomputer 6y ago
I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago as well.
QuesnayJr 6y ago
That's funny. I've wondered that too, and from the other replies it seems you and I aren't the only ones. I half-assumed it existed and was just called something-incomprehensible-mode so I never heard of it.
nonbirithm 6y ago
Well, it's not Elisp, but: https://github.com/Ruin0x11/OpenNefia https://github.com/Ruin0x11/OpenNefia It's an engine rewrite of an old roguelike I used to play in Lua. I'm trying to experiment with making a game where the engine is similar in flexibility to Emacs. It has an Emacs frontend, and I designed it with the zealotry of an Emacs user, meaning it has advice, hooks, interactive evaluation and runtime module hotloading. You can run anything the engine can run from a REPL (and cause all the state to become broken easily). To be clear, it's not a general-purpose roguelike engine, but it proves that with enough effort such an iterative developer experience of modding a game can be achieved.
sachac 6y ago
I used to play Nethack within Emacs using nethack-el. It was really useful being able to bind a shortcut to something that could copy the map and append it to a text file with a note. :)

catern 6y ago

I've wondered the same thing! In particular, the highly polished and powerful interfaces of some roguelikes (DCSS comes to mind) strongly remind me of Emacs. It seems like the scriptability and power of Emacs interfaces is a natural fit for roguelikes.

jordigh 6y ago

Hm, there's nethack-mode, but that's not what you mean, is it? You want a framework for building roguelikes, not for playing a particular one?

podiki 6y ago

There is dungeon-mode [0]. (I spotted this over on r/emacs [1], and it's on the FSF directory [2]) [0] https://github.com/dungeon-mode/game https://github.com/dungeon-mode/game [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/jar7tz/dungeonmode_f https://old.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/jar7tz/dungeonmode_f... [2] https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Dungeon-mode https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Dungeon-mode

jonnycomputer 6y ago

I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago as well.

QuesnayJr 6y ago

That's funny. I've wondered that too, and from the other replies it seems you and I aren't the only ones. I half-assumed it existed and was just called something-incomprehensible-mode so I never heard of it.

nonbirithm 6y ago

Well, it's not Elisp, but: https://github.com/Ruin0x11/OpenNefia https://github.com/Ruin0x11/OpenNefia It's an engine rewrite of an old roguelike I used to play in Lua. I'm trying to experiment with making a game where the engine is similar in flexibility to Emacs. It has an Emacs frontend, and I designed it with the zealotry of an Emacs user, meaning it has advice, hooks, interactive evaluation and runtime module hotloading. You can run anything the engine can run from a REPL (and cause all the state to become broken easily). To be clear, it's not a general-purpose roguelike engine, but it proves that with enough effort such an iterative developer experience of modding a game can be achieved.

sachac 6y ago

I used to play Nethack within Emacs using nethack-el. It was really useful being able to bind a shortcut to something that could copy the map and append it to a text file with a note. :)