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With good policies and good people, you don't need "HR". I would argue he has HR just without a centralized department. Although either way, the only good HR is
by kjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 6y ago
With good policies and good people, you don't need "HR". I would argue he has HR just without a centralized department. Although either way, the only good HR is no HR.
HR sucks.
- Nailgun 6y agoI have never dealt with HR and came away happy or less stressed.
- rkalla 6y agoToby's the worst.
- CodeGlitch 6y agoAs said elsewhere on HN - HR departments are ultimately there to protect the employer, not the employees. This is fair enough, but not how HR departments advertise themselves.
- kabdib 6y agoDo not EVER believe that HR is there for you. Ever.
- valuearb 6y agoSpot on, not sure who would down vote this factual statement.
- Godel_unicode 6y agoYour privilege is showing. I think that the thing to keep in mind here is that HR, like legal, isn't for when things are going well. This comment sort of assumes that you'll never have a harassment problem, nobody will ever have an issue with getting their FMLA "approved", and the company will never have a performance problem that requires letting someone go in a way that won't get you sued. These things all happen, and there's a lot of No True Scotsmanning in the idea that they only happen to bad companies/people. Edit: I don't like HR either, but I'm very unlikely to need them to keep my boss from harassing me.
- valuearb 6y agoIt sounds like you think HR la job is to prevent harassment, instead of protecting the company against employees who claim harassment.
- Godel_unicode 6y agoWhat if I told you that preventing harassment is the best way to protect the company from harassment claims? Just because some people in HR suck and don't do this doesn't mean that's not what their job is a.
- valuearb 6y agoIf they can’t and won’t prevent harassment it doesn’t matter what they claim their job is.
- Godel_unicode 6y agoMany can and do. My source for this is personal experience of watching coworkers successfully get HR to intervene. As I have repeatedly said on this thread, some HR people being bad does not mean that isn't what HR does/is supposed to do. You're painting with an inappropriately large brush here.
- valuearb 6y agoHR doesn’t work for you, the fact that you’ve witnessed a few random cases where they helped coworkers doesn’t change that. My experience is that HR conspires with managers to serve their aims, so why not just deal with your manager?
- Godel_unicode 6y agoYour experience is irrelevant.
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