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In France, no one reads Derrida. No one ever did. He never really mattered. People never really considered him as an important philosopher neither a second tier
by finikytou 6y ago
In France, no one reads Derrida. No one ever did. He never really mattered. People never really considered him as an important philosopher neither a second tier one. It always amazed me that americans embraced him. I tried a few times reading him it is just an horrible vain experience full of really vain writing. He was probably the closest to what is modern american philosophy: marketing. no depth and all in appearances.
funny that now his thoughts -that contributed to all the skin-color related communitarianism and destructuration that is pushing american middle/lower class into race-centric battles (while educating everyone at the same time that race doesn't exist) instead of focusing on class issues (occupy wall street)- are coming back to france imported from all the american minds and social movements.
Just like USA thought they won the cold war going to space while the communists entered their schools and educated their kids we see similar things in france with us fighting the ideas of derrida decades ago not to enter into society just to see them coming back x10 from the american empire through netflix,twitter, facebook and even hacker news of today. and obviously the vicious thing of this americanized destructuring system is that they developed tools to annihilate any alternative thoughts (Censorship on twitter/fb, downvote on HN/Shaming individuals at work or even remove them from their job for daring to think by themselves) deeming them racist,supremacist or whatever is it. even if it comes from minorities - like me- then they will call us uncle tom or "race traitor" because we try to debate instead of siding with the people who think they are right and that destructuring should happen
- dopidopHN 6y agoI had to read Guattari in french high school. It's in the syllabus along with Foucault.
- dang 6y agoPlease don't take HN threads into nationalistic battle on top of ideological battle. We don't want either of those here, and the two together are toxic. What we want is curious conversation. It's certainly possible to have that on these topics, low-probability though that may be on the internet. Actually the OP is a nice basis for curious conversation—thoughtful, open-minded, interesting, and easy to read. (Though the Althusser bit seems gratuitous.) It's noteworthy for considering Derrida without either subscribing to or denouncing him. That's unusual, and very much in the spirit of curiosity. As long as we're talking about this, we should follow that example. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html