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How long ago did you use signal? The UX is on par with WhatsApp. In fact I've found tiny things that signal does better (it groups sending multiple pictures int

How long ago did you use signal? The UX is on par with WhatsApp. In fact I've found tiny things that signal does better (it groups sending multiple pictures into on "album" message instead of sending one message per picture like WhatsApp) The only place I could agree WhatsApp has a significantly better UX is with backing up messages.

StavrosK 6y ago
WhatsApp does the album thing as well.
- rPlayer6554 6y ago
  Hmmm interesting. It hasn't been doing it for me recently. Maybe it's a setting.
dawnerd 6y ago
Telegram also does “albums”
- rPlayer6554 6y ago
  Yes but UI/UX around E2E is not good.
fnord123 6y ago
Signal on desktop is very slow. It's a very unpleasant experience.
- rPlayer6554 6y ago
  That is fair, the startup time takes forever.
  - eptcyka 6y ago
    The desktop app has managed to corrupt its database multiple times since I started using it a couple of months ago. Its really bad for an app to do that in this day and age, mind you. This is btrfs levels of bad.
    - simias 6y ago
      I've had the same issue multiple times lately. It really wouldn't be so bad if Signal could resynchronize the messages, but here you have to restart from scratch every time. I always found it very dissonant that all I hear coming from the Signal devs is "we know best, you know nothing" but then when it comes to a native client the only thing they manage to implement is a half-assed, bloated-yet-underfeatured electron client (which already suffered at least one significant security vulnerability I might add). If they were a little more open with their development policies they might not be in such an awkward situation right now.
      - fnord123 6y ago
        This is exactly my sentiment. If the encryption is as potato as their UI then I simply don't buy the security claims.
sofixa 6y ago
> The UX is on par with WhatsApp So as the GP said, subpar.
isatty 6y ago
No it’s not. Does it even have a native app yet?
eptcyka 6y ago
I use it everyday. Its just not. Video calls are strictly worse, forwarding images is strictly worse, no ability to share history in group chats, the UI is just inferior. Some of these, I can live without, others are really preventing my friends and family from using the app. Also, scheduled messages. Ability to message people without exposing ones phone number (a real blocker from using Signal for some group chats that are privacy minded). Default camera is very bad, image picker is slow and picks images from all dorectories instead of my main camera dir. My gf wasn't even aware its possible to send multiple images in a single message until I pointed it out. Telegram has none of these issues :/ I really want to love signal, its my daily driver. But its incredibly hard.

StavrosK 6y ago

WhatsApp does the album thing as well.

rPlayer6554 6y ago
Hmmm interesting. It hasn't been doing it for me recently. Maybe it's a setting.

dawnerd 6y ago

Telegram also does “albums”

rPlayer6554 6y ago
Yes but UI/UX around E2E is not good.

fnord123 6y ago

Signal on desktop is very slow. It's a very unpleasant experience.

rPlayer6554 6y ago
That is fair, the startup time takes forever.
- eptcyka 6y ago
  The desktop app has managed to corrupt its database multiple times since I started using it a couple of months ago. Its really bad for an app to do that in this day and age, mind you. This is btrfs levels of bad.
  - simias 6y ago
    I've had the same issue multiple times lately. It really wouldn't be so bad if Signal could resynchronize the messages, but here you have to restart from scratch every time. I always found it very dissonant that all I hear coming from the Signal devs is "we know best, you know nothing" but then when it comes to a native client the only thing they manage to implement is a half-assed, bloated-yet-underfeatured electron client (which already suffered at least one significant security vulnerability I might add). If they were a little more open with their development policies they might not be in such an awkward situation right now.
    - fnord123 6y ago
      This is exactly my sentiment. If the encryption is as potato as their UI then I simply don't buy the security claims.

sofixa 6y ago

> The UX is on par with WhatsApp So as the GP said, subpar.

isatty 6y ago

No it’s not. Does it even have a native app yet?

eptcyka 6y ago

I use it everyday. Its just not. Video calls are strictly worse, forwarding images is strictly worse, no ability to share history in group chats, the UI is just inferior. Some of these, I can live without, others are really preventing my friends and family from using the app. Also, scheduled messages. Ability to message people without exposing ones phone number (a real blocker from using Signal for some group chats that are privacy minded). Default camera is very bad, image picker is slow and picks images from all dorectories instead of my main camera dir. My gf wasn't even aware its possible to send multiple images in a single message until I pointed it out. Telegram has none of these issues :/ I really want to love signal, its my daily driver. But its incredibly hard.