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Speculating here, we could call the checbox "Do Not Track", and make it a browser setting. HN would probably love this. Oh, wait...

Grollicus 6y ago
I've recently learned of a website that respects this this: https://geizhals.at/ https://geizhals.at/ So maybe there is some hope.
0x0 6y ago
Or you know, people could just disable cookies IN THE BROWSER SETTINGS if they don't like them. Which is the only place technical measures against cookies can be enforced anyways. And stop bothering the rest of us with these pointless popups.
- hutghkiuhg 6y ago
  Apparently THE LAW can force companies to put up these annoying popups. Couldn't THE LAW force companies to respect Do Not Track? Yes, yes, I know, smaller sites will not give a fuck. But I bet Google, FB and other ones will. Which is why they fight against this so hard. Just try enabling Do Not Track in Chrome and watch the scary dialogs you need to go through which will make regular people think it's a dangerous thing to do.
  - foobar33333 6y ago
    The problem is, no one wants to be tracked. So it makes sense for browsers to default to the setting everyone wants. But then tracker tech can't respect the setting because it means just shutting down.
  - eptcyka 6y ago
    Its a law that's hard to enforce. How'd you verify that a company isn't tracking you without auditing their whole codebase and infrastructure at multiple points in time?
  - rypskar 6y ago
    >>Apparently THE LAW can force companies to put up these annoying popups Where do the law force companies to use annoying popups? I see the annoying popups as companies doing all they can do try to make users feel it is the laws fault and not the sites fault that a site require to get consent using an annoying popup. In most of the cases the popup do nothing except of annoy the users, is often no difference in what is loaded before or after users are tricked into giving consent. To follow the law you could only handle data directly relevant to the functionality of the site/app or you could have a place where users could select reject all or see what to allow. Allow all or see more, like for instance google is using, is not following the law
- sergeykish 6y ago
  Unfortunately disabling cookies is not enough — there is localStorage (can be disabled) and fingerprinting (nothing we can do). Why don't you advertise "Don't Mind Tracking" header?
- TheCoelacanth 6y ago
  The setting they asked for was "Do Not Track", not "Do Not Store Data on my Computer". You can track without setting cookies and you can set cookies without tracking.
Deukhoofd 6y ago
The EU is working on legislation to make Do Not Track enforced by law, which should get rid of a lot of the popups. https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/proposal-eprivacy-regulation https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/proposal-epriv...
- iamacyborg 6y ago
  I believe something similar is also in the works in California

Grollicus 6y ago

I've recently learned of a website that respects this this: https://geizhals.at/ https://geizhals.at/ So maybe there is some hope.

0x0 6y ago

Or you know, people could just disable cookies IN THE BROWSER SETTINGS if they don't like them. Which is the only place technical measures against cookies can be enforced anyways. And stop bothering the rest of us with these pointless popups.

hutghkiuhg 6y ago
Apparently THE LAW can force companies to put up these annoying popups. Couldn't THE LAW force companies to respect Do Not Track? Yes, yes, I know, smaller sites will not give a fuck. But I bet Google, FB and other ones will. Which is why they fight against this so hard. Just try enabling Do Not Track in Chrome and watch the scary dialogs you need to go through which will make regular people think it's a dangerous thing to do.
- foobar33333 6y ago
  The problem is, no one wants to be tracked. So it makes sense for browsers to default to the setting everyone wants. But then tracker tech can't respect the setting because it means just shutting down.
- eptcyka 6y ago
  Its a law that's hard to enforce. How'd you verify that a company isn't tracking you without auditing their whole codebase and infrastructure at multiple points in time?
- rypskar 6y ago
  >>Apparently THE LAW can force companies to put up these annoying popups Where do the law force companies to use annoying popups? I see the annoying popups as companies doing all they can do try to make users feel it is the laws fault and not the sites fault that a site require to get consent using an annoying popup. In most of the cases the popup do nothing except of annoy the users, is often no difference in what is loaded before or after users are tricked into giving consent. To follow the law you could only handle data directly relevant to the functionality of the site/app or you could have a place where users could select reject all or see what to allow. Allow all or see more, like for instance google is using, is not following the law
sergeykish 6y ago
Unfortunately disabling cookies is not enough — there is localStorage (can be disabled) and fingerprinting (nothing we can do). Why don't you advertise "Don't Mind Tracking" header?
TheCoelacanth 6y ago
The setting they asked for was "Do Not Track", not "Do Not Store Data on my Computer". You can track without setting cookies and you can set cookies without tracking.

Deukhoofd 6y ago

The EU is working on legislation to make Do Not Track enforced by law, which should get rid of a lot of the popups. https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/proposal-eprivacy-regulation https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/proposal-epriv...

iamacyborg 6y ago
I believe something similar is also in the works in California