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Or... Your opinion isn’t held by other people, some of whom disagree with your opinion and are expressing that.

by sbuk 6y ago

nwienert 6y ago
HN has many cargo cults not reflected by broader tech. It certainly has a crowd.
luckylion 6y ago
> Your opinion isn’t held by other people, some of whom disagree with your opinion and are expressing that. The other opinion seems "notifications cannot be disabled, therefore notifications are bad". If you don't want to see notification requests, you never will. Granted: you need to be able to change settings, in a very restricted environment or with a custom clone of some browser you might not be able to. For most users, that's not a problem. I'm one of them. I don't see notification requests on my desktop or phone. Neither do I see requests for geo-location, even though the browser is fundamentally capable of providing my geo-location to websites through an API; I've disabled it.
- sbuk 6y ago
  I didn’t express an opinion either way. But it’s clear to me that there are some amongst us that believe that a difference of opinion must mean everyone who disagrees must therefore be in a cargo cult. That is what I am taking issue with. It’s also against the guidelines here.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    I'm still struggling to find out the non-cult reason for "the feature must be banned from the browser, just being able to disable it for all time with a single click is not enough".
    - sbuk 6y ago
      It'll be the same reason as the "cult" of "what I want should be the norm and anyone who disagrees, for whatever reason, must be in a cult"
      - yunohn 6y ago
        I think the misunderstanding is that the HN sentiment is very tangential to how real average users experience websites. Here everyone uses Adblock and NoScript, whereas most users have neither installed. So HN is more like a cult, whereas the real world is much larger and not like a cult?

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Or... Your opinion isn’t held by other people, some of whom disagree with your opinion and are expressing that.

by sbuk 6y ago

Or... Your opinion isn’t held by other people, some of whom disagree with your opinion and are expressing that.

nwienert 6y ago
HN has many cargo cults not reflected by broader tech. It certainly has a crowd.
luckylion 6y ago
> Your opinion isn’t held by other people, some of whom disagree with your opinion and are expressing that. The other opinion seems "notifications cannot be disabled, therefore notifications are bad". If you don't want to see notification requests, you never will. Granted: you need to be able to change settings, in a very restricted environment or with a custom clone of some browser you might not be able to. For most users, that's not a problem. I'm one of them. I don't see notification requests on my desktop or phone. Neither do I see requests for geo-location, even though the browser is fundamentally capable of providing my geo-location to websites through an API; I've disabled it.
- sbuk 6y ago
  I didn’t express an opinion either way. But it’s clear to me that there are some amongst us that believe that a difference of opinion must mean everyone who disagrees must therefore be in a cargo cult. That is what I am taking issue with. It’s also against the guidelines here.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    I'm still struggling to find out the non-cult reason for "the feature must be banned from the browser, just being able to disable it for all time with a single click is not enough".
    - sbuk 6y ago
      It'll be the same reason as the "cult" of "what I want should be the norm and anyone who disagrees, for whatever reason, must be in a cult"
      - yunohn 6y ago
        I think the misunderstanding is that the HN sentiment is very tangential to how real average users experience websites. Here everyone uses Adblock and NoScript, whereas most users have neither installed. So HN is more like a cult, whereas the real world is much larger and not like a cult?