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ETC is the original chain. The current ETH was the forced hard fork to roll back the fuckup that was the DAO.

by jki275 6y ago

crazydoggers 6y ago
You’re clearly shilling for something here or just like to be contrarian. And who “forced” whom?? I’m pretty sure I chose to upgrade the software because it made more sense to me.. just like everyone that upgraded. There’s no such thing as the “original chain”. ETC has itself had multiple hard forks (ie Agharta and Atlantis) Every time the software is updated in a way that requires clients to upgrade, you get a hard fork. It’s simply that in most cases, no one keeps the old software, so you don’t have a second blockchain fork that lives on. So what’s the “original”. If you mean Ethereum as it was prior to the DAO fix, then literally no one is running that chain. I’ll go run some mining clients pre ETC Agharta and call it “Ethereum Classic Classic” and then post stupid comments all over forums how it’s the “original” Edit: Ahhh... you’re shilling. You’ve got ADA and Tezos... I’m guessing ETC as well. I read back through your history. For those reading, just goes to show you kiddies, don’t believe everything you read online. Do you’re own research, and a lot of it. And research doesn’t mean what people post on forums, it means original sources, code, technical papers, etc. When people have vested interests like with investment stuff, there’s lots of FUD. I’ve got tokens in ADA, DOT, ETC, ETH, BTC, etc etc etc. I am interested in discussing the facts and technology of blockchains, not in pumping some single coin I have.
- jki275 6y ago
  I'm not pumping anything. I haven't shilled for anything. I've never told you to buy anything. But if you believe ETH is the original chain, you're simply wrong -- and technically you are actually the one shilling ETH. Yes, I have ADA and XTZ, both of which are far superior in technology to ETH. I have a bunch of others as well (not ETC or ETH). I'm not telling anyone to buy anything, certainly not on my word. In fact I generally tell people NOT to get involved if they're asking questions because they're just going to lose money. Everybody jumping into ADA at 1.25 going "it must go up since it went on coinbase yesterday!!" might just get destroyed. Or they might not, who knows. I'm not in it for the money, I'm in it for the technology. Always have been.
  - crazydoggers 6y ago
    > Yes, I have ADA and XTZ, both of which are far superior in technology to ETH. I have a bunch of others as well (not ETC or ETH). I'm not telling anyone to buy anything, certainly not on my word. Yes, it’s easier to deny. That’s how marketing works. You don’t say buy this instead of this. You just sow doubt. And if you’re using facts, then at least you can say your adding to the discussion. But you lack facts, and instead use weasel worlds like “original”, “forced”, “superior” which are not backed up by fact. By calling it “original” you are trying to convey some sense of legitimacy where there is none. You’re playing with words, what I call FUD. FUD: “ Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.” Explain in technical details how I’m wrong. I’ll wait. I just explained it in detail, that there is no “original chain”. You haven’t supplied any facts. How by any definition of “original” can ETC be, if it, itself has hard forked. If those hard forks have also included updates to increase interoperability with ETH. Again, if I kept mining on software prior to the ETC Agharta, does that mean I am on the “original”? By your definition, in the course of upgrading the blockchain technology, anyone who refuses to upgrade at any fork is the “original”. That definition then becomes pointless. If you’re in it for the technology, then, just be honest with your wording, and neutral with your point of view. I am. I talk about facts. ETH and ETC are hard forks. Both have blockchains that are based off the first ETH chain that launched, both have had various levels of fork upgrades. ETC was created when some miners decided they didn’t want to return funds from the hacked DAO contract by implementing an upgrade. They then decided to name themselves Ethereum Classic to differentiate. (I could play name games and say that since it’s ETC tokens and not ETH tokens it’s not original, whereas my ETH tokens maintained their value, and where still the same exact tokens on the trading platforms when the fork occurred, but that’s playing word games) Going on here and saying things are “original” doesn’t educate anyone. You can be annoyed or against the upgrade because you honestly don’t believe the DOA tokens should have been transferred back. That’s fine. But don’t add to the misinformation by posting confusing FUD. That’s not about the technology. Being about the technology is explaining how blockchain means “original” or single truth has no meaning. It’s a distributed consensus.

ETC is the original chain. The current ETH was the forced hard fork to roll back the fuckup that was the DAO.

by jki275 6y ago

ETC is the original chain. The current ETH was the forced hard fork to roll back the fuckup that was the DAO.

You’re clearly shilling for something here or just like to be contrarian. And who “forced” whom?? I’m pretty sure I chose to upgrade the software because it made more sense to me.. just like everyone that upgraded. There’s no such thing as the “original chain”. ETC has itself had multiple hard forks (ie Agharta and Atlantis) Every time the software is updated in a way that requires clients to upgrade, you get a hard fork. It’s simply that in most cases, no one keeps the old software, so you don’t have a second blockchain fork that lives on. So what’s the “original”. If you mean Ethereum as it was prior to the DAO fix, then literally no one is running that chain. I’ll go run some mining clients pre ETC Agharta and call it “Ethereum Classic Classic” and then post stupid comments all over forums how it’s the “original” Edit: Ahhh... you’re shilling. You’ve got ADA and Tezos... I’m guessing ETC as well. I read back through your history. For those reading, just goes to show you kiddies, don’t believe everything you read online. Do you’re own research, and a lot of it. And research doesn’t mean what people post on forums, it means original sources, code, technical papers, etc. When people have vested interests like with investment stuff, there’s lots of FUD. I’ve got tokens in ADA, DOT, ETC, ETH, BTC, etc etc etc. I am interested in discussing the facts and technology of blockchains, not in pumping some single coin I have.

jki275 6y ago
I'm not pumping anything. I haven't shilled for anything. I've never told you to buy anything. But if you believe ETH is the original chain, you're simply wrong -- and technically you are actually the one shilling ETH. Yes, I have ADA and XTZ, both of which are far superior in technology to ETH. I have a bunch of others as well (not ETC or ETH). I'm not telling anyone to buy anything, certainly not on my word. In fact I generally tell people NOT to get involved if they're asking questions because they're just going to lose money. Everybody jumping into ADA at 1.25 going "it must go up since it went on coinbase yesterday!!" might just get destroyed. Or they might not, who knows. I'm not in it for the money, I'm in it for the technology. Always have been.
- crazydoggers 6y ago
  > Yes, I have ADA and XTZ, both of which are far superior in technology to ETH. I have a bunch of others as well (not ETC or ETH). I'm not telling anyone to buy anything, certainly not on my word. Yes, it’s easier to deny. That’s how marketing works. You don’t say buy this instead of this. You just sow doubt. And if you’re using facts, then at least you can say your adding to the discussion. But you lack facts, and instead use weasel worlds like “original”, “forced”, “superior” which are not backed up by fact. By calling it “original” you are trying to convey some sense of legitimacy where there is none. You’re playing with words, what I call FUD. FUD: “ Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.” Explain in technical details how I’m wrong. I’ll wait. I just explained it in detail, that there is no “original chain”. You haven’t supplied any facts. How by any definition of “original” can ETC be, if it, itself has hard forked. If those hard forks have also included updates to increase interoperability with ETH. Again, if I kept mining on software prior to the ETC Agharta, does that mean I am on the “original”? By your definition, in the course of upgrading the blockchain technology, anyone who refuses to upgrade at any fork is the “original”. That definition then becomes pointless. If you’re in it for the technology, then, just be honest with your wording, and neutral with your point of view. I am. I talk about facts. ETH and ETC are hard forks. Both have blockchains that are based off the first ETH chain that launched, both have had various levels of fork upgrades. ETC was created when some miners decided they didn’t want to return funds from the hacked DAO contract by implementing an upgrade. They then decided to name themselves Ethereum Classic to differentiate. (I could play name games and say that since it’s ETC tokens and not ETH tokens it’s not original, whereas my ETH tokens maintained their value, and where still the same exact tokens on the trading platforms when the fork occurred, but that’s playing word games) Going on here and saying things are “original” doesn’t educate anyone. You can be annoyed or against the upgrade because you honestly don’t believe the DOA tokens should have been transferred back. That’s fine. But don’t add to the misinformation by posting confusing FUD. That’s not about the technology. Being about the technology is explaining how blockchain means “original” or single truth has no meaning. It’s a distributed consensus.