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Because those cookies are cleared when the tab is closed and most of the major ad networks (Google, Amazon) forget who you are when that happens. Why worry abou

Because those cookies are cleared when the tab is closed and most of the major ad networks (Google, Amazon) forget who you are when that happens. Why worry about it?

sixothree 6y ago
Lol. Do they really.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  This is wrongly downvoted despite being absolutely right. There's a big misunderstanding behind these "cookie" consent prompts. They are actually about overall data processing consent regardless of technical means - this includes cookies but also things like browser fingerprinting, IP addresses, etc which will persist despite clearing cookies. Using an extension that automatically grants consent and merely deletes cookies every time would give you a false sense of security if the automatically granted consent allows them to use your browser's fingerprint or IP address to track you anyway.
  - 3np 6y ago
    At least if you’re in EU, active consent is required to comply with the GDPR. This means that if you do what this extension does (filter out the UI elements and ignore dialogs), it’s illegal for a website to save PII about you and your visit. Many websites and data processors violate this, but since that’s the case for those sites the only winning move is not to play.
    - dkersten 6y ago
      Many websites are not compliant though, so while its illegal, they're still doing it. For example, GDPR requires opt-in, many websites have opt-out. Its illegal, but if its not being enforced, then...
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      It could be argued that if the consent prompt can’t be dismissed without providing an answer (whether accept or decline) and you use technical means to circumvent that then it’s fair for the system to track you anyway as it’s undefined behavior?
- throwaway53453 6y ago
  Yes, they do. Google doesn't use fingerprinting for ads. Go look at the privacy policy.
  - thayne 6y ago
    Google probably doesn't need to use fingerprinting. They control enough of the web that first-party cookies and google accounts probably give them enough information already.
  - germanier 6y ago
    I don't see a anything in that policy that would prevent them (although I grant that many clauses try to give that impression without explicitly stating they don't). What they do say though is > The information we collect includes unique identifiers, browser type and settings, device type and settings, operating system, mobile network information including carrier name and phone number, and application version number. We also collect information about the interaction of your apps, browsers, and devices with our services, including IP address, crash reports, system activity, and the date, time, and referrer URL of your request. ... We may also collect information about you from trusted partners, including marketing partners who provide us with information about potential customers of our business services, and security partners who provide us with information to protect against abuse. We also receive information from advertisers to provide advertising and research services on their behalf. We use various technologies to collect and store information, including cookies, pixel tags, local storage, such as browser web storage or application data caches, databases, and server logs. ... We use the information we collect to customize our services for you, including providing recommendations, personalized content, and customized search results

Because those cookies are cleared when the tab is closed and most of the major ad networks (Google, Amazon) forget who you are when that happens. Why worry about it?

sixothree 6y ago

Lol. Do they really.

Nextgrid 6y ago
This is wrongly downvoted despite being absolutely right. There's a big misunderstanding behind these "cookie" consent prompts. They are actually about overall data processing consent regardless of technical means - this includes cookies but also things like browser fingerprinting, IP addresses, etc which will persist despite clearing cookies. Using an extension that automatically grants consent and merely deletes cookies every time would give you a false sense of security if the automatically granted consent allows them to use your browser's fingerprint or IP address to track you anyway.
- 3np 6y ago
  At least if you’re in EU, active consent is required to comply with the GDPR. This means that if you do what this extension does (filter out the UI elements and ignore dialogs), it’s illegal for a website to save PII about you and your visit. Many websites and data processors violate this, but since that’s the case for those sites the only winning move is not to play.
  - dkersten 6y ago
    Many websites are not compliant though, so while its illegal, they're still doing it. For example, GDPR requires opt-in, many websites have opt-out. Its illegal, but if its not being enforced, then...
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    It could be argued that if the consent prompt can’t be dismissed without providing an answer (whether accept or decline) and you use technical means to circumvent that then it’s fair for the system to track you anyway as it’s undefined behavior?
throwaway53453 6y ago
Yes, they do. Google doesn't use fingerprinting for ads. Go look at the privacy policy.
- thayne 6y ago
  Google probably doesn't need to use fingerprinting. They control enough of the web that first-party cookies and google accounts probably give them enough information already.
- germanier 6y ago
  I don't see a anything in that policy that would prevent them (although I grant that many clauses try to give that impression without explicitly stating they don't). What they do say though is > The information we collect includes unique identifiers, browser type and settings, device type and settings, operating system, mobile network information including carrier name and phone number, and application version number. We also collect information about the interaction of your apps, browsers, and devices with our services, including IP address, crash reports, system activity, and the date, time, and referrer URL of your request. ... We may also collect information about you from trusted partners, including marketing partners who provide us with information about potential customers of our business services, and security partners who provide us with information to protect against abuse. We also receive information from advertisers to provide advertising and research services on their behalf. We use various technologies to collect and store information, including cookies, pixel tags, local storage, such as browser web storage or application data caches, databases, and server logs. ... We use the information we collect to customize our services for you, including providing recommendations, personalized content, and customized search results