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I would vouch they need money to pay for hosting and everything else, and as a free service perhaps ads are the only way. Not sure how one can expect youtube to

I would vouch they need money to pay for hosting and everything else, and as a free service perhaps ads are the only way. Not sure how one can expect youtube to host that amount of content for free perpetually. I dislike ads, particularly dark patterns, and shocking I pay for youtube premium. An unpopular opinion but can someone please explain how can all this be hosted for free? Or why do some believe they should?

tartoran 6y ago
Ads in moderation are ok. An excessive interminable shower of intrusive ads are met with complete block.
lambda_obrien 6y ago
I would pay, except youtube had these ads that are like, " hate being annoyed by ads? Pay us!" Fuck youtube.
- kleer001 6y ago
  TANSTAAFL
  - lambda_obrien 6y ago
    No, literally youtube had ads which just said things like, "does your kid hate it when youtube has commercials? Does it annoy you when they scream because of that? Pay us to remove them!" It works be one thing to advertise a service or product, but they just put ads in to literally annoy you into paying. I'm not kidding. I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this. I know there's no free lunch, my comment was about the way youtube does business: it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you. How is that worth a tnstaafl reply? I wonder if the world has passed me by when I think that I'm taking a stand against corporate greed and bullshit and everyone else happily goes along with whatever.
    - tubularhells 6y ago
      Why don't you use an adblocker?
      - lambda_obrien 6y ago
        Frankly, I hate dealing with tech outside of work and I would have to pihole my TV.
        cyrrus 6y ago
        I don’t think pihole blocks YouTube ads because they originate from their own server
        lambda_obrien 6y ago
        There ya go, hehe, I wouldn't want to deal with it.
    - kleer001 6y ago
      > I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this. That doesn't follow. How would you see ads if you're a YTP member? You standing up for a freeloader? Their annoyance is your annoyance? > it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you What else should they be doing? You an advertising genius? Maybe cut off free youtube entirely? Only a free hour a day? Show me someone else that's in the same situation, by order of magnitude, and doing a better job by your standards. Come back to reality, mate. Server bills (repair, licensing, etc) and rent and people running the servers and dear god so much else needs to be paid. YT is providing a service, a service that ain't free.
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Bancakes 6y ago
If youtube becomes paywalled, I'll just stop using youtube. It's that simple.
singularity2001 6y ago
I'd honestly pay for their premium 13$ per month if it wasn't Google: Doing so would allow them to cross reference all their tracking to my personal details, or at least to a fixed id.
- serix 6y ago
  I pay for family premium less than 6$ (I'm not from US though)
  - peruvian 6y ago
    You can sign up for Premium under a VPN and get it for cheap, even in the US. I pay $3/mo for it.
- thijsvandien 6y ago
  Exactly. The main reason I don't pay for YouTube, is that I don't want to be logged in to browse it—already getting tracked enough without that.
tkiolp4 6y ago
I understand YouTube (they need money, they run ads)... what I don’t understand is the companies that pay YouTube to post their ads. I mean, who on earth likes ads? Being interrupted by Company X while watching a video will make me with high probability hate company X (instead of making me buy their products). This is something i don’t really get because no one likes ads, but here you have that’s the number one strategy of (bad) companies in marketing. It’s so stupid.
- LarryMade2 6y ago
  I think a good part of the problem is Youtube has a lot of advertisers, and even with their popularity still a limited number of videos potential customers watch; so, they load up the ads on videos to get enough exposure for the advertisers to believe they get their money's worth.
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tpoacher 6y ago
Try Coca Cola, the refreshing drink. I believe OP's point is not that any amount of ads is unacceptable, and I'm sure they would agree with your statement. Johnsons and Johnsons baby shampoo; no more tears. HOWEVER. Dove cream soap, your luxury soap. I am sure, Skittles, taste the rainbow, that you will also, Adidas, impossible is nothing, agree, Nike, just do it, that if the ads themselves, Snickers, satisfaction, outnumber the actual content, Tesco, every little helps, that becomes very, Volkwagen, the people's car, frustrating to the point of, Babybel, just pop and eat, madness, is completely, Kleenex, the soft tissue, unnecessary, and just plain greedy, Durex, to our competitors customers, happy father's day.

tartoran 6y ago

Ads in moderation are ok. An excessive interminable shower of intrusive ads are met with complete block.

lambda_obrien 6y ago

I would pay, except youtube had these ads that are like, " hate being annoyed by ads? Pay us!" Fuck youtube.

kleer001 6y ago
TANSTAAFL
- lambda_obrien 6y ago
  No, literally youtube had ads which just said things like, "does your kid hate it when youtube has commercials? Does it annoy you when they scream because of that? Pay us to remove them!" It works be one thing to advertise a service or product, but they just put ads in to literally annoy you into paying. I'm not kidding. I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this. I know there's no free lunch, my comment was about the way youtube does business: it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you. How is that worth a tnstaafl reply? I wonder if the world has passed me by when I think that I'm taking a stand against corporate greed and bullshit and everyone else happily goes along with whatever.
  - tubularhells 6y ago
    Why don't you use an adblocker?
    - lambda_obrien 6y ago
      Frankly, I hate dealing with tech outside of work and I would have to pihole my TV.
      - cyrrus 6y ago
        I don’t think pihole blocks YouTube ads because they originate from their own server
        lambda_obrien 6y ago
        There ya go, hehe, I wouldn't want to deal with it.
  - kleer001 6y ago
    > I WAS a YouTube premium member until recently, but dropped it because of crap like this. That doesn't follow. How would you see ads if you're a YTP member? You standing up for a freeloader? Their annoyance is your annoyance? > it's a dick move to annoy users into paying you What else should they be doing? You an advertising genius? Maybe cut off free youtube entirely? Only a free hour a day? Show me someone else that's in the same situation, by order of magnitude, and doing a better job by your standards. Come back to reality, mate. Server bills (repair, licensing, etc) and rent and people running the servers and dear god so much else needs to be paid. YT is providing a service, a service that ain't free.
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Bancakes 6y ago

If youtube becomes paywalled, I'll just stop using youtube. It's that simple.

singularity2001 6y ago

I'd honestly pay for their premium 13$ per month if it wasn't Google: Doing so would allow them to cross reference all their tracking to my personal details, or at least to a fixed id.

serix 6y ago
I pay for family premium less than 6$ (I'm not from US though)
- peruvian 6y ago
  You can sign up for Premium under a VPN and get it for cheap, even in the US. I pay $3/mo for it.
thijsvandien 6y ago
Exactly. The main reason I don't pay for YouTube, is that I don't want to be logged in to browse it—already getting tracked enough without that.

tkiolp4 6y ago

I understand YouTube (they need money, they run ads)... what I don’t understand is the companies that pay YouTube to post their ads. I mean, who on earth likes ads? Being interrupted by Company X while watching a video will make me with high probability hate company X (instead of making me buy their products). This is something i don’t really get because no one likes ads, but here you have that’s the number one strategy of (bad) companies in marketing. It’s so stupid.

LarryMade2 6y ago
I think a good part of the problem is Youtube has a lot of advertisers, and even with their popularity still a limited number of videos potential customers watch; so, they load up the ads on videos to get enough exposure for the advertisers to believe they get their money's worth.

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tpoacher 6y ago

Try Coca Cola, the refreshing drink. I believe OP's point is not that any amount of ads is unacceptable, and I'm sure they would agree with your statement. Johnsons and Johnsons baby shampoo; no more tears. HOWEVER. Dove cream soap, your luxury soap. I am sure, Skittles, taste the rainbow, that you will also, Adidas, impossible is nothing, agree, Nike, just do it, that if the ads themselves, Snickers, satisfaction, outnumber the actual content, Tesco, every little helps, that becomes very, Volkwagen, the people's car, frustrating to the point of, Babybel, just pop and eat, madness, is completely, Kleenex, the soft tissue, unnecessary, and just plain greedy, Durex, to our competitors customers, happy father's day.