On the other hand, I'm still using my Galaxy Note 3 (2013). Only some months ago did I eventually get around to flashing it from Lollipop to latest Lineage (and

On the other hand, I'm still using my Galaxy Note 3 (2013). Only some months ago did I eventually get around to flashing it from Lollipop to latest Lineage (android 10/Q). The battery is fine because I replaced it. 4G works fine. 5 GHz wifi works fine. A few apps were unstable or had performance issues which led to me finally upgrading and they went away. I can watch YT just fine, play various games, whatever, it doesn't feel slow. I'm (hopefully) getting a Librem 5 phone sometime this year but I already know it's going to disappoint even as I've been expecting as much from the start. You're not getting these phones for their practical superiority on any metric, but as a weak signal to the world of an approach you'd rather others took, and maybe this will help form a better bedrock for yet another attempt in another 5+ years especially given how much upstreaming is going on vs. what Mozilla or Ubuntu did. I think the Librem is even more disappointing than the PinePhone (which, given its much more reasonable price, I'm tempted to buy for the same reasons I'm getting a Librem) and that's only comparing with my Note 3 let alone some of the monsters out there now (16 GB of RAM on a phone exists). The Librem/PinePhone have as much RAM as my nearly 8 year old phone, same number CPU cores (but lower frequency and probably lower performance), same internal storage, in the case of Librem actually more money in nominal prices, both lower screen resolution, uncertain whether Librem'll survive carriers moving to VoLTE (my Note 3 will)... My only point in this mini-rant is that while it may not be a 10 year old phone, at 8 years my Note 3 is still looking better than these 'new' things on feature set. GP is right that these open phones are disappointing, even if in some cases there's nothing to be done because of the higher level project goals.