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Oh look another Anti Tesla auto journalist that came from Jalopnik. That is a surprise... And to clarify again, I think Full Self Driving and Autopilot are bad

by S_A_P 6y ago

Oh look another Anti Tesla auto journalist that came from Jalopnik. That is a surprise... And to clarify again, I think Full Self Driving and Autopilot are bad names for driver assist that does not fully self drive or autopilot in the sense that the average layperson would think those terms mean. I dont know if Tesla will ever get to full self driving or autopilot in that respect. I also think that the driver assist as it exists today will prevent entire categories of accidents even if it causes another class of accidents. I think the net difference will be that we are safer on the road because of it. While we are so quick to call out Tesla for the quality of autopilot we forget that at least 50% of the people on the road are distracted and have no such safety net. At least once per drive I sit behind someone who decided that the red light was the perfect time to catch up on their digital life and misses the green light. I see people weaving like a drunk driver and going 20 mph under the speed limit so they can have a buffer zone in front of them while they phone and drive. We need a solution to this as people arent going to stay off their phones...

jowsie 6y ago
Did you watch the video the article is mostly based on? The car trys to drive into several objects several times, other cars, oncoming traffic, literal walls. It's dangerous that they just put this out for people to 'test' while making outrageous claims about how well their tech works.
stefan_ 6y ago
What do you mean? The thing is it's trying to do full self driving. It just happens to steer into people, cars and walls while doing so! There is a big difference between "bad marketing" and shipping wannabe self-driving code.
mmmmmbop 6y ago
More than ten years after ACC and lane keep assist were first broadly introduced, Tesla took those two technologies and rebranded them as Autopilot, conveniently removing the safety feature requiring drivers to keep their hands on the wheel. Now they've released a "full self driving" beta that can not actually fully self drive without killing its passengers, while Waymo has been operating a publicly accessible, fully autonomous taxi service for years now. Last I checked they don't even have safety drivers anymore. And somehow, there are still people who seem to believe that Tesla is pushing the envelope.
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by S_A_P 6y ago

jowsie 6y ago

Did you watch the video the article is mostly based on? The car trys to drive into several objects several times, other cars, oncoming traffic, literal walls. It's dangerous that they just put this out for people to 'test' while making outrageous claims about how well their tech works.

stefan_ 6y ago

What do you mean? The thing is it's trying to do full self driving. It just happens to steer into people, cars and walls while doing so! There is a big difference between "bad marketing" and shipping wannabe self-driving code.

mmmmmbop 6y ago

More than ten years after ACC and lane keep assist were first broadly introduced, Tesla took those two technologies and rebranded them as Autopilot, conveniently removing the safety feature requiring drivers to keep their hands on the wheel. Now they've released a "full self driving" beta that can not actually fully self drive without killing its passengers, while Waymo has been operating a publicly accessible, fully autonomous taxi service for years now. Last I checked they don't even have safety drivers anymore. And somehow, there are still people who seem to believe that Tesla is pushing the envelope.

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