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So it's full self-driving, but it's not, like, full self-driving? Musk is "the first to say" a lot of things.

samatman 6y ago
Or it's full self-driving but it's like, in beta? If I were participating in a beta test and my phone kept crashing, I could complain about that, but not much, right? beta software does that. Of course a car crashing is a much bigger deal, so, like: pay attention. I'm pessimistic about it ever getting out of beta, personally. But it is what it says on the label. I've seen other, equally cherry-picked videos, where the FSD system has done a competent job of getting from A to B with zero driver intervention.
- Alupis 6y ago
  Realistically, it's a display of just how far away FSD actually is. The mistakes the car makes in the video are unforgivable and extremely dangerous. > I've seen other, equally cherry-picked videos Cherry picked? Did you watch the video? It's a complete drive through Oakland - not cherry picked snippets.
  - samatman 6y ago
    Yes, cherry picked. I've seen video which is also unedited, and which shows Tesla FSD behaving just fine. It was promoted onto my Twitter feed by people who want to believe FSD is going well. Whereas this one was promoted to the top of HN by people who want to sell clicks promoting the idea that FSD is going poorly. Either one is cherry picking. What wouldn't be cherry picking is watching as much video of FSD driving as you can, collecting statistics on it, trying to make sure your samples are representative (good luck if you aren't Tesla), and writing up a report on what you find. This is, of course, a ton of work.
    - Alupis 6y ago
      Your definition of "cherry picked" seems to differ from the generally accepted definition. The guy that made the video and posted it to youtube is a Tesla "fanboy". I doubt his goal was to paint Tesla's FSD software in a bad light. Yet, in one video, the Tesla nearly hits pedestrians, nearly side swipes other vehicles, drives in the wrong lane, comes to a complete stop in the middle of a busy road, and tried to drive straight through a iron fence. That doesn't look very good to me...
- alacombe 6y ago
  > Of course a car crashing is a much bigger deal, so, like: pay attention. No, sue Musk & Tesla for fraud. & false advertisement. Unless they are willing to put their responsibility on the line, it will remain a piece of garbage.

Or it's full self-driving but it's like, in beta? If I were participating in a beta test and my phone kept crashing, I could complain about that, but not much, right? beta software does that. Of course a car crashing is a much bigger deal, so, like: pay attention. I'm pessimistic about it ever getting out of beta, personally. But it is what it says on the label. I've seen other, equally cherry-picked videos, where the FSD system has done a competent job of getting from A to B with zero driver intervention.

Alupis 6y ago
Realistically, it's a display of just how far away FSD actually is. The mistakes the car makes in the video are unforgivable and extremely dangerous. > I've seen other, equally cherry-picked videos Cherry picked? Did you watch the video? It's a complete drive through Oakland - not cherry picked snippets.
- samatman 6y ago
  Yes, cherry picked. I've seen video which is also unedited, and which shows Tesla FSD behaving just fine. It was promoted onto my Twitter feed by people who want to believe FSD is going well. Whereas this one was promoted to the top of HN by people who want to sell clicks promoting the idea that FSD is going poorly. Either one is cherry picking. What wouldn't be cherry picking is watching as much video of FSD driving as you can, collecting statistics on it, trying to make sure your samples are representative (good luck if you aren't Tesla), and writing up a report on what you find. This is, of course, a ton of work.
  - Alupis 6y ago
    Your definition of "cherry picked" seems to differ from the generally accepted definition. The guy that made the video and posted it to youtube is a Tesla "fanboy". I doubt his goal was to paint Tesla's FSD software in a bad light. Yet, in one video, the Tesla nearly hits pedestrians, nearly side swipes other vehicles, drives in the wrong lane, comes to a complete stop in the middle of a busy road, and tried to drive straight through a iron fence. That doesn't look very good to me...
alacombe 6y ago
> Of course a car crashing is a much bigger deal, so, like: pay attention. No, sue Musk & Tesla for fraud. & false advertisement. Unless they are willing to put their responsibility on the line, it will remain a piece of garbage.