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It’s because we are scared as fuck with autopilot on and are hyper attentive. My car drives like a drunk teenager and routinely tries to murder me in autopilot.

cbozeman 6y ago
This is awful, but it did make me laugh out loud. That said, I have a lot of faith in Papa Musk and his team. I think this nut will be cracked eventually, but its just going to take a lot of time to do so - far more than the timeline he initially proposed, as detailed in your excellent post earlier.
- hobs 6y ago
  Why would any of this faith be created given the continuous line of bullshit you've been fed?
  - justanotherhn 6y ago
    Because most of his promises came through (eventually)
  - cbozeman 6y ago
    Peter Thiel once said, "Never bet against Elon Musk." Elon said he was going to build a private space launch company. He did. Elon said he was going to build an electric car company. He did. Elon said he was going to build a $35,000 electric car for the masses. He did. Elon said he was going to build a worldwide satellite constellation for Internet access. He is. Rapidly. Everything Elon has said he was going to do, he has. He hasn't always done it at the speed at which he said he would, but he does always get it done. He (meaning his team / company) will eventually develop a fully self-driving car. No, it may not occur at the pace at which he proclaimed, but I have confidence it'll occur.
    - computerex 6y ago
      You know there are many promises he made that haven't come to fruition? Remember Hyperloop? Interplanetary travel? Neuralink? His achievements are remarkable but that doesn't mean that he should be treated like an infallible demi-god. Yes he's done some really cool stuff but that doesn't mean he should not be the subject of scrutiny.
      - cbozeman 6y ago
        Neuralink's being actively developed right now. Hyperloop was an idea and nothing more. He never said he was personally committed to developing that, hence third-parties working on it. Interplanetary travel? Starship is actively going through testing and looks like it should be ready for moon launches around 2023, which is in two more years. I don't consider him infallible, or a demi-god, but its hard not to admire the sheer work ethic of this man. He's legitimately trying, and by all accounts of people who know him, he's actively working on all these projects and also making considerable stride towards these goals. These are not easily achieved tasks.
        computerex 6y ago
        I admire the work he does. But he oversells. FSD is one example. He has been promising it for half a decade and people have paid him substantial amount of money for a feature that he'll likely never deliver as he describes and certainly not on the time-line he promised. At the same time he is putting dangerously incomplete software out on public roads and marketing it as FSD when it's clearly not. It's endangering not only his own customers but also everyone around a Tesla on the public roads. If that's not unethical, I don't know what is. He promised Earth point to point travel, which would require rocket safety to improve by a factor of a million. He has been promising ridiculous things from Neuralink but with literally nothing to show for it. Look at this tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/888053175155949572?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/88805317515594957... Does that really indicate no personal commitment? He touts that he's received government permission to build a Hyperloop, NY to DC in 29 mins.

cbozeman 6y ago

This is awful, but it did make me laugh out loud. That said, I have a lot of faith in Papa Musk and his team. I think this nut will be cracked eventually, but its just going to take a lot of time to do so - far more than the timeline he initially proposed, as detailed in your excellent post earlier.

hobs 6y ago
Why would any of this faith be created given the continuous line of bullshit you've been fed?
- justanotherhn 6y ago
  Because most of his promises came through (eventually)
- cbozeman 6y ago
  Peter Thiel once said, "Never bet against Elon Musk." Elon said he was going to build a private space launch company. He did. Elon said he was going to build an electric car company. He did. Elon said he was going to build a $35,000 electric car for the masses. He did. Elon said he was going to build a worldwide satellite constellation for Internet access. He is. Rapidly. Everything Elon has said he was going to do, he has. He hasn't always done it at the speed at which he said he would, but he does always get it done. He (meaning his team / company) will eventually develop a fully self-driving car. No, it may not occur at the pace at which he proclaimed, but I have confidence it'll occur.
  - computerex 6y ago
    You know there are many promises he made that haven't come to fruition? Remember Hyperloop? Interplanetary travel? Neuralink? His achievements are remarkable but that doesn't mean that he should be treated like an infallible demi-god. Yes he's done some really cool stuff but that doesn't mean he should not be the subject of scrutiny.
    - cbozeman 6y ago
      Neuralink's being actively developed right now. Hyperloop was an idea and nothing more. He never said he was personally committed to developing that, hence third-parties working on it. Interplanetary travel? Starship is actively going through testing and looks like it should be ready for moon launches around 2023, which is in two more years. I don't consider him infallible, or a demi-god, but its hard not to admire the sheer work ethic of this man. He's legitimately trying, and by all accounts of people who know him, he's actively working on all these projects and also making considerable stride towards these goals. These are not easily achieved tasks.
      - computerex 6y ago
        I admire the work he does. But he oversells. FSD is one example. He has been promising it for half a decade and people have paid him substantial amount of money for a feature that he'll likely never deliver as he describes and certainly not on the time-line he promised. At the same time he is putting dangerously incomplete software out on public roads and marketing it as FSD when it's clearly not. It's endangering not only his own customers but also everyone around a Tesla on the public roads. If that's not unethical, I don't know what is. He promised Earth point to point travel, which would require rocket safety to improve by a factor of a million. He has been promising ridiculous things from Neuralink but with literally nothing to show for it. Look at this tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/888053175155949572?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/88805317515594957... Does that really indicate no personal commitment? He touts that he's received government permission to build a Hyperloop, NY to DC in 29 mins.