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> I don't want my kiddo to think a man needs to save her yes, but I think it's teaching this the wrong way. Here is a quote from Hiyao Miyazaki, who is famous

> I don't want my kiddo to think a man needs to save her yes, but I think it's teaching this the wrong way. Here is a quote from Hiyao Miyazaki, who is famous for having female leads in animated films. > "That song ‘Let it Go’ is popular now. It’s all about being yourself. But that’s terrible — self-satisfied people are boring. We have to push hard and surpass ourselves." I think it's right, instead of an IDGAF attitude, it's better to highlight hard work.

watwut 6y ago
Yeah, we should make kids feel bad about themselves in cartoons. Only adults and teenagers should be allowed the movies that makes them feel good about themselves.
- klyrs 6y ago
  (tongue firmly in cheek) Not sure how many teenagers you've met... are you sure you want to encourage that? And don't even get me started on adults... More seriously. Moderation in everything, but we're in a society and there will always be people arguing for one pole or another. Most people recognize a need for balance, but to attain balance they pick the pole they see as insufficiently represented in society... and tend to ignore the other(s) If we all agree "rest is for the wicked" we end up with suicidal geniuses. If we all agree "chill out, it's cool man" then real progress is impossible. People advocating a reasonable mix can't summarize their position quickly enough to get attention
  - watwut 6y ago
    I did not found above quote to be moderation. It is literally complaint about how a single sonf let it go is terrible, because lyrics are about being self-satisfied. There are songs and movies about trying to improve things, about being sad about being aggressive and so on. The one popular song about 5-7 years old crowd about being self satisfied doea not mean anything terrible.
- devmunchies 6y ago
  implying that cartoons that inspire one to rise above can't also make you feel good, optimistic, or inspired? I can't think of a miyazaki film that would make a kid feel bad about themselves.
  - watwut 6y ago
    I am reacting to above quote. I think that it ok to be self satisfied. I dont find self satistied people boring in general either. It is fine and good to be in peace with yourself.
oceanghost 6y ago
You're right of course. But the hero of the movie isn't Elsa. It's Anna-- who believes unswervingly in familial duty and responsibility, and who rehabilitates her sister and thus the remnants of her family through nothing more than her determination (and a call to action). This is the role model. Not the chick with the super powers.

watwut 6y ago

Yeah, we should make kids feel bad about themselves in cartoons. Only adults and teenagers should be allowed the movies that makes them feel good about themselves.

klyrs 6y ago
(tongue firmly in cheek) Not sure how many teenagers you've met... are you sure you want to encourage that? And don't even get me started on adults... More seriously. Moderation in everything, but we're in a society and there will always be people arguing for one pole or another. Most people recognize a need for balance, but to attain balance they pick the pole they see as insufficiently represented in society... and tend to ignore the other(s) If we all agree "rest is for the wicked" we end up with suicidal geniuses. If we all agree "chill out, it's cool man" then real progress is impossible. People advocating a reasonable mix can't summarize their position quickly enough to get attention
- watwut 6y ago
  I did not found above quote to be moderation. It is literally complaint about how a single sonf let it go is terrible, because lyrics are about being self-satisfied. There are songs and movies about trying to improve things, about being sad about being aggressive and so on. The one popular song about 5-7 years old crowd about being self satisfied doea not mean anything terrible.
devmunchies 6y ago
implying that cartoons that inspire one to rise above can't also make you feel good, optimistic, or inspired? I can't think of a miyazaki film that would make a kid feel bad about themselves.
- watwut 6y ago
  I am reacting to above quote. I think that it ok to be self satisfied. I dont find self satistied people boring in general either. It is fine and good to be in peace with yourself.

oceanghost 6y ago

You're right of course. But the hero of the movie isn't Elsa. It's Anna-- who believes unswervingly in familial duty and responsibility, and who rehabilitates her sister and thus the remnants of her family through nothing more than her determination (and a call to action). This is the role model. Not the chick with the super powers.