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The tl;dr of it is that she's commented about biological femininity as a real experience distinct from trans-females. That offends the ideological extreme of th
by harshreality 6y ago
The tl;dr of it is that she's commented about biological femininity as a real experience distinct from trans-females. That offends the ideological extreme of the trans movement which has labelled her a TERF (trans-exclusionary radical feminist).
- dragonwriter 6y agoJKR is much more clearly TE than RF.
- Avicebron 6y agowhy is it TE to have an opinion?
- dragonwriter 6y agoThat’s like asking “why is it racist to have an opinion?” It’s not. Its TE (or racist, or whatever) to have a TE (or racist, or whatever) opinion.
- zepto 6y agoIs it in some absolute sense for all time? Or is it only ‘TE’ within the theoretical framework of Trans activists?
- pseudalopex 6y agoExcluding people is exclusionary. It doesn't mean justified or unjustified.
- zepto 6y agoExcluding people from a category is just a way of thinking about something. Trans people exclude CIS people from the category of Trans. Do we call them CIS exclusionary? Just saying someone else is exclusionary is meaningless.
- pseudalopex 6y agoExcluding someone from a domestic violence shelter isn't just a way of thinking about something. Imprisoning people more likely to be raped with people more likely to rape them isn't just a way of thinking about something. Cis and trans are opposites by definition. They existed long before they were applied to gender.
- zepto 6y ago> Excluding someone from a domestic violence shelter isn't just a way of thinking about something. Imprisoning people more likely to be raped with people more likely to rape them isn't just a way of thinking about something. True, but the relevance is not obvious because these aren’t problems caused by so called TERFs. It’s also not true that censoring JK Rowling is required as part of solving them, either. > Cis and trans are opposites by definition. They existed long before they were applied to gender. Does that mean that you think that cisgender women are not in the same category as transgender women?
- pseudalopex 6y agoTE people advocate policies that create those outcomes. I've seen none support creation of separate but equal facilities for trans people. It's too costly for such a small minority they say. Rowling hasn't been censored. Cis women and trans women are in the category of women.
- zepto 6y ago> TE people advocate policies that create those outcomes. This just isn’t true. > I've seen none support creation of separate but equal facilities for trans people. It's too costly for such a small minority they say. TERFs don’t say this. People controlling budgets do. They are are the ones withholding services from trans people. Not TERFs. > Cis women and trans women are in the category of women. Only according to certain trans perspectives. You have clearly agreed there are two kinds of women. It is reasonable for them to not see one another as members of the same category.
- vcavallo 6y agoWeird. The trans people I know and speak to have no problem with the acknowledgement of biological femininity. Actually they mostly factor that fact of world into part of what defines their identity..