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Interesting that those women struggle to understand your point that they deserves less for prioritizing their own livelihoods during a crucial part of their car

Interesting that those women struggle to understand your point that they deserves less for prioritizing their own livelihoods during a crucial part of their career rather than meeting HN neckbeard standards of “desirability.” This isn’t hard, people are having less children because the economy is crumbling. Even people with moderately stable jobs are afraid to risk that security by having children.

jariel 6y ago
"This isn’t hard, people are having less children because the economy is crumbling. " Overwhelmingly people are having less children because 'birth control'. This is a giant social change that we don't remotely talk enough about. 'Sex' 50 years ago meant 'pregnancy'. Our current social mores would not remotely be possible without effective and fairly widespread birth control. 80% of our young girls would be pregnant by 21. Secondarily - social change and the aspirations of both young men and women. " the economy is crumbling" ? COVID aside, what do you mean by 'crumbling'? GDP per capita is rising, unemployment is historically very low, and in reality 'real wages' are actually doing ok. The purchasing power of working class people in 2020 is considerably greater than 50 years ago. Walmart, my god man, that store alone has changed everything. The stuff you an buy, for the prices, it's just shocking. Economic factors are important - for example, in Quebec they've instituted $5/day day care and that has actually moved the needle. But our choice to have 2 jobs is very much that - a choice. We could have more kids and different kinds of lives. Real estate would be cheaper, but homes would probably be a little less nice, we'd eat out less and have slightly less stuff.
Viliam1234 6y ago
> HN neckbeard standards of “desirability.” Offending people who express an opinion does not make the opinion wrong. I heard this idea first from a woman. A friend of mine complained that when she was 20 years old, every man's head turned to her when she entered the room; but when she was 30 years old, her date's head turned when a 20 years old woman entered the room. On intellectual level she already kinda knew this could happen, but it still hurt a lot emotionally when it actually happened. Hiding this information from young women is not necessarily helping them. The problem with career is that for many people it is exciting at the beginning, but becomes a chore after a few years... with no end in sight. This also should be more emphasized to young people (of both genders). Enjoy the work while it's fun, but save as much money as you can for the years when it stops being fun, and think twice about sacrificing things for a career... or you might give up something you desire for something you will hate. Oh, another thing young people of both genders should be told, is the ageism they will face in the second half of their careers. As another example of how the first impression of the "career" is not a representative one.

jariel 6y ago

"This isn’t hard, people are having less children because the economy is crumbling. " Overwhelmingly people are having less children because 'birth control'. This is a giant social change that we don't remotely talk enough about. 'Sex' 50 years ago meant 'pregnancy'. Our current social mores would not remotely be possible without effective and fairly widespread birth control. 80% of our young girls would be pregnant by 21. Secondarily - social change and the aspirations of both young men and women. " the economy is crumbling" ? COVID aside, what do you mean by 'crumbling'? GDP per capita is rising, unemployment is historically very low, and in reality 'real wages' are actually doing ok. The purchasing power of working class people in 2020 is considerably greater than 50 years ago. Walmart, my god man, that store alone has changed everything. The stuff you an buy, for the prices, it's just shocking. Economic factors are important - for example, in Quebec they've instituted $5/day day care and that has actually moved the needle. But our choice to have 2 jobs is very much that - a choice. We could have more kids and different kinds of lives. Real estate would be cheaper, but homes would probably be a little less nice, we'd eat out less and have slightly less stuff.

Viliam1234 6y ago

> HN neckbeard standards of “desirability.” Offending people who express an opinion does not make the opinion wrong. I heard this idea first from a woman. A friend of mine complained that when she was 20 years old, every man's head turned to her when she entered the room; but when she was 30 years old, her date's head turned when a 20 years old woman entered the room. On intellectual level she already kinda knew this could happen, but it still hurt a lot emotionally when it actually happened. Hiding this information from young women is not necessarily helping them. The problem with career is that for many people it is exciting at the beginning, but becomes a chore after a few years... with no end in sight. This also should be more emphasized to young people (of both genders). Enjoy the work while it's fun, but save as much money as you can for the years when it stops being fun, and think twice about sacrificing things for a career... or you might give up something you desire for something you will hate. Oh, another thing young people of both genders should be told, is the ageism they will face in the second half of their careers. As another example of how the first impression of the "career" is not a representative one.