Surely there's some middle ground though, no? At what point do you have a stable core and then you just bolt things on? Very true. Frameworks should strive f

Surely there's some middle ground though, no? At what point do you have a stable core and then you just bolt things on? Very true. Frameworks should strive for a solid API that makes it easy for people to write add-ons, and avoid adding anything that is not essential. Of course, one hacker's essential is another's bloat, but developers should give things a long hard look before adding stuff. It's the reason I like Ramaze so much. Has what's needed, gets out of your way, it's easy to evolve or extend if you know Ruby, and it respects your opinions.