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Is not only 'I want to die', is 'I want you to kill me' (and deal with it, and deal also with my sons or family if they don't want the same as me), that is a di

Is not only 'I want to die', is 'I want you to kill me' (and deal with it, and deal also with my sons or family if they don't want the same as me), that is a different case and involves more that "me, me, me". The law allow conscientious objection in doctors (for now), but also will justify death angels manipulating vulnerable people. We shouldn't forget that unbearable pain can be easily created with the appropriate medicines. People can be drugged and turn into addict puppets also. Has happened before. Even recently in US. And that will taint the statistics also, removing a safety guarantee for everybody. Before the law, a warn was triggered when more than average people died in part of an hospital. After that, the hospital with an interest in lowering this value has a way to do it (falsifying consent). Protecting their public image, but also hiding any rotten apple present in their staff. Bad news for everybody. If there is something that vulnerable elder don't need now is a new exception to kill them legally.

guareber8 6y ago
By that reasoning, then gun ownership should be completely banned anywhere, to prevent self defense justifications in what are now legal scenarios. Surely, you'd support such a law change as well?
- BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
  > By that reasoning, then gun ownership should be completely banned anywhere, to prevent self defense justifications in what are now legal scenarios. Surely, you'd support such a law change as well? You're not starting from the belief that nobody supports banning gun ownership are you? Because many people do. I'm not sure where this is going.
  - pvaldes 6y ago
    Is a typical red herring, just ignore it
Broken_Hippo 6y ago
Oh, but we already do this - just with a small subset of patients... and pets. Vets have to kill pets quite often. As far as patients are concerned: We have life support, and we withhold life support once we conclude that there is little to no chance of recovery. Assisted suicide allows this sort of thing sooner, for folks that are suffering. Those death angels you speak of aren't angels. These are murderers. You are afraid folks are going to murder others. This already happens, and we already have laws against this. We can very quickly produce statistics on what sorts of people seek out assisted death: We can look to other places.

guareber8 6y ago

By that reasoning, then gun ownership should be completely banned anywhere, to prevent self defense justifications in what are now legal scenarios. Surely, you'd support such a law change as well?

BugsJustFindMe 6y ago
> By that reasoning, then gun ownership should be completely banned anywhere, to prevent self defense justifications in what are now legal scenarios. Surely, you'd support such a law change as well? You're not starting from the belief that nobody supports banning gun ownership are you? Because many people do. I'm not sure where this is going.
- pvaldes 6y ago
  Is a typical red herring, just ignore it

Broken_Hippo 6y ago

Oh, but we already do this - just with a small subset of patients... and pets. Vets have to kill pets quite often. As far as patients are concerned: We have life support, and we withhold life support once we conclude that there is little to no chance of recovery. Assisted suicide allows this sort of thing sooner, for folks that are suffering. Those death angels you speak of aren't angels. These are murderers. You are afraid folks are going to murder others. This already happens, and we already have laws against this. We can very quickly produce statistics on what sorts of people seek out assisted death: We can look to other places.