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i am pretty sure loans weren't prohibited in Judaism, there's a reason for that whole history of money lending in europe predominantly done by the Jews. as for

by hawk_ 6y ago

i am pretty sure loans weren't prohibited in Judaism, there's a reason for that whole history of money lending in europe predominantly done by the Jews. as for interest always bring predatory - like many things it's not so black and white. it's about moderation and regulation.

gher-shyu3i 6y ago
It's prohibited for Jews to lend each other money with interest, ask any practicing Jew today. It seems to be a "loophole" that they're claiming that it only applies to lending money to each other, but not to gentiles. Interest cannot be done in moderation, we've seen those attempts countless times, yet it always gets out of control. It's not dissimilar with drinking. Some people may drink in moderation, but there will always be drunk driving and homicides and many other terrible things caused by drinking. No way around it with moderation.
- hawk_ 6y ago
  interesting loophole. didn't know of it. but the answer can't be prohibition either can it? for drunk drivers, the consequences should be harsher no doubt. driving is a privilege not a right and should be recognized as such. but banning drinking alcohol altogether hasn't worked well in any society at large.
  - gher-shyu3i 6y ago
    > but banning drinking alcohol altogether hasn't worked well in any society at large. Nope :) I come from a society where when drinking was prohibited, people complied immediately. It was documented that the streets of Madinah were flooded with wine when the prohibition came down because everyone poured out their stashes. Of course, there will always be a small minority who will refuse to abide, either due to temptation or stubbornness. However, the prohibition under Islam has proven to work very very well. It's fallicious thinking to apply the failure of ban that was instituted in the US and generalize to other cultures. Islam has prohibited intoxicants 1400 years ago, but many people don't seem to bring it up. Edit: it seems people are downvoting our discussion.

by hawk_ 6y ago

gher-shyu3i 6y ago

It's prohibited for Jews to lend each other money with interest, ask any practicing Jew today. It seems to be a "loophole" that they're claiming that it only applies to lending money to each other, but not to gentiles. Interest cannot be done in moderation, we've seen those attempts countless times, yet it always gets out of control. It's not dissimilar with drinking. Some people may drink in moderation, but there will always be drunk driving and homicides and many other terrible things caused by drinking. No way around it with moderation.

hawk_ 6y ago
interesting loophole. didn't know of it. but the answer can't be prohibition either can it? for drunk drivers, the consequences should be harsher no doubt. driving is a privilege not a right and should be recognized as such. but banning drinking alcohol altogether hasn't worked well in any society at large.
- gher-shyu3i 6y ago
  > but banning drinking alcohol altogether hasn't worked well in any society at large. Nope :) I come from a society where when drinking was prohibited, people complied immediately. It was documented that the streets of Madinah were flooded with wine when the prohibition came down because everyone poured out their stashes. Of course, there will always be a small minority who will refuse to abide, either due to temptation or stubbornness. However, the prohibition under Islam has proven to work very very well. It's fallicious thinking to apply the failure of ban that was instituted in the US and generalize to other cultures. Islam has prohibited intoxicants 1400 years ago, but many people don't seem to bring it up. Edit: it seems people are downvoting our discussion.