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I don't care about trials or aggregate risk. If I might be individually likely to be injured by a vaccine or nasal swab, it's irresponsible to the point of harm

• bhaak 6y ago
  To put it into perspective, the risk of getting killed as a pedestrian in the US is more than twice as likely as the German numbers for the AZ vaccine (which has a bias towards middle aged women and are completely different than the UK numbers, so we already know that we don't have the whole picture). There were 20 deaths per 1 million people in the US in 2019. Every time you stand up, there's a chance something bad might happen. Likewise with any medical procedure. Of course the doctors are trying to minimize the risks but if you don't take the vaccine, you take the risk of getting infected. Life is just not riskless. There are no certainties.
  • readflaggedcomm 6y ago
    Evaluating the risk of individual actions shouldn't be done this way. It is bizarre to argue about how rare a bad effect is when a disorder can be detected ahead of time. There is a certainty that this attitude is killing people.
    • bhaak 6y ago
      That's not true. We don't know which condition triggers this effect. Remember, the UK data doesn't show this effect. It's not known ahead of time who is susceptile to this effect. It still can't even be ruled out if this is just a statistical anomaly. That's somewhat unlikely though but we just don't know which precondition is increasing the risk. In an ideal situation we would suspend vaccinating with AZ but it's also a fact that not vaccinating would be putting more people at risk. Currently, there are not enough alternatives around to do otherwise.