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>I see individuals that would rather go on vacation then have children, but that is a false dichotomy Why is this a false dichotomy? Clearly having children wi

by kar5pt 6y ago

>I see individuals that would rather go on vacation then have children, but that is a false dichotomy Why is this a false dichotomy? Clearly having children will use up time and resources that could otherwise be used for vacations and other fun things. I've also heard a theory that in poorer areas, children can become a status marker. So when people see no hope of climbing the socioeconomic latter, they resort to having lots of children to prove their "virility".

raducu 6y ago
It is a false dichotomy because you can go on vacation with your children. But the added cost per child is just soooo much more than any vacation. I'd love to be able to handle a second child. I can comfortably handle the financial aspect, it is the lack of energy, lack of free time and my anxieties that prevent me from taking the plunge.
- odshoifsdhfs 6y ago
  It depends on what a vacation is for you. If it is visit Paris, sit at and outdoor cafe and see the Louvre. Yeah, kids don't mess with your vacation except perhaps cost. If you want to go to raves until 5 in the morning, do drugs and drink. Yeah, kids are a no no to take. Then there is the in-between, which depends a lot on the type of kid and activity. One week surfing big waves somewhere, maybe possible if your kid has interest and are other smaller waves around. Impossible (or at least non recommended) if kid is afraid of the water and doesn't know how to swim. etc. You can always take them, give them an ipad and let them spend 7 days in front of it, but at that point, why take them? I am divorced but have a kid. Vacations (travelling) are usually split in two (or three). One week with my kid at someplace that is mostly for him (beachs + waterparks + etc). A week with my gf (which can be a mix of things) and then a week for myself (usually snowboarding or surfing somewhere by myself or a group of friends). But I can do this because I am divorced, and I don't have him 100% of the time with me. If I had, I could say goodbye to 'my' week (like I did while I was married).
  - raducu 6y ago
    I fully agree on all that you've said. Certainly some things are harder/impossible with kids. Even just strolling around or just laying in bed is harder if you have kids, unless, as you said, you give them an ipad or let them watch TV, or get a nanny. Being a parent is taxing either on you wallet or on your energy levels, there's no way around it.
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by kar5pt 6y ago

raducu 6y ago

It is a false dichotomy because you can go on vacation with your children. But the added cost per child is just soooo much more than any vacation. I'd love to be able to handle a second child. I can comfortably handle the financial aspect, it is the lack of energy, lack of free time and my anxieties that prevent me from taking the plunge.

odshoifsdhfs 6y ago
It depends on what a vacation is for you. If it is visit Paris, sit at and outdoor cafe and see the Louvre. Yeah, kids don't mess with your vacation except perhaps cost. If you want to go to raves until 5 in the morning, do drugs and drink. Yeah, kids are a no no to take. Then there is the in-between, which depends a lot on the type of kid and activity. One week surfing big waves somewhere, maybe possible if your kid has interest and are other smaller waves around. Impossible (or at least non recommended) if kid is afraid of the water and doesn't know how to swim. etc. You can always take them, give them an ipad and let them spend 7 days in front of it, but at that point, why take them? I am divorced but have a kid. Vacations (travelling) are usually split in two (or three). One week with my kid at someplace that is mostly for him (beachs + waterparks + etc). A week with my gf (which can be a mix of things) and then a week for myself (usually snowboarding or surfing somewhere by myself or a group of friends). But I can do this because I am divorced, and I don't have him 100% of the time with me. If I had, I could say goodbye to 'my' week (like I did while I was married).
- raducu 6y ago
  I fully agree on all that you've said. Certainly some things are harder/impossible with kids. Even just strolling around or just laying in bed is harder if you have kids, unless, as you said, you give them an ipad or let them watch TV, or get a nanny. Being a parent is taxing either on you wallet or on your energy levels, there's no way around it.

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