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My license has been suspended for not renewing the registration/smogging disassembled vehicles used as parts donors in project cars. I had assumed the reasonab

My license has been suspended for not renewing the registration/smogging disassembled vehicles used as parts donors in project cars. I had assumed the reasonable thing would occur; the plates would expire and become suspended, a non-issue for a chassis sawz-alled to bits and sold for scrap. Nope! Not in IL. While receiving a benign speeding ticket on a road-trip out of state, I learned my ostensibly valid DL was suspended, and what it feels like to be handcuffed, arrested, and processed at the station. Why had IL suspended my DL? Well, I was forced to stay out-of-state and appear in court that week, eventually learning why IL had suspended my license to defend my innocence: the disassembled vehicle hadn't passed a smog test that year. They suspended the vehicle owner's DL for this nonsense. The judge in the state I had to defend myself in didn't even know what a smog test was. It was a clown show across the board, with my pocket footing the bill at every turn. A suspended license is not a reliable indicator of anything other than bureaucratic fundraising by the state.

josefx 6y ago
> I had assumed the reasonable thing would occur; the plates would expire and become suspended, a non-issue for a chassis sawz-alled to bits and sold for scrap. That expectation seems to be at odds with everything I as a non car owner remember from my parents selling their cars. As far as I can find there often is no explicit requirement to deregister the car/plates, but with the exact problem you ran into: Even if everything ended up suspended the registration would still point at you, with a very good chance that you end up liable. > hadn't passed a smog test that year. Among the top reasons for people driving around with an expired registration apparently. So the police found exactly what it expected when it saw that expired registration with your name on it.
- pengaru 6y ago
  > So the police found exactly what it expected when it saw that expired registration with your name on it. What are you talking about? I wasn't driving a vehicle with expired tags, the vehicle in my name triggering the DL suspension had been DIY scrapped and the plates destroyed. I was pulled over for speeding, driving a friend's car on a road trip during my turn at the wheel. Reading comprehension fail...
  - josefx 6y ago
    > and the plates destroyed Can you point out where you wrote that in your previous comment?
    - pengaru 6y ago
      "a non-issue for a chassis sawz-alled to bits and sold for scrap." What the hell else is this supposed to mean? That I both scrapped the car and was driving around with the plates for some reason?
      - oblio 6y ago
        What even is "sawz-alled"?
        throwaway0a5e 6y ago
        Sawzall is the Kleenex of reciprocating saws. It can be used as a noun or a verb the same way most "saw" based compound words can.
        oblio 6y ago
        I'd say that Kleenex has greater global brand recognition, in this case :-) Plus, wouldn't it be spelled "sawzall-ed" (though, more likely, just "sawzalled")?
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  >That expectation seems to be at odds with everything I as a non car owner remember from my parents selling their cars. Selling and letting registration lapse are two very different things. Most states only criminalize driving a car with a expired registration. I have half a dozen cars with expired registration to my name and it's a non issue as long as I don't get pulled over driving them (which would be really hard to do since they either aren't complete enough to be drive-able or have long since been turned into tin cans).

josefx 6y ago

> I had assumed the reasonable thing would occur; the plates would expire and become suspended, a non-issue for a chassis sawz-alled to bits and sold for scrap. That expectation seems to be at odds with everything I as a non car owner remember from my parents selling their cars. As far as I can find there often is no explicit requirement to deregister the car/plates, but with the exact problem you ran into: Even if everything ended up suspended the registration would still point at you, with a very good chance that you end up liable. > hadn't passed a smog test that year. Among the top reasons for people driving around with an expired registration apparently. So the police found exactly what it expected when it saw that expired registration with your name on it.

pengaru 6y ago
> So the police found exactly what it expected when it saw that expired registration with your name on it. What are you talking about? I wasn't driving a vehicle with expired tags, the vehicle in my name triggering the DL suspension had been DIY scrapped and the plates destroyed. I was pulled over for speeding, driving a friend's car on a road trip during my turn at the wheel. Reading comprehension fail...
- josefx 6y ago
  > and the plates destroyed Can you point out where you wrote that in your previous comment?
  - pengaru 6y ago
    "a non-issue for a chassis sawz-alled to bits and sold for scrap." What the hell else is this supposed to mean? That I both scrapped the car and was driving around with the plates for some reason?
    - oblio 6y ago
      What even is "sawz-alled"?
      - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
        Sawzall is the Kleenex of reciprocating saws. It can be used as a noun or a verb the same way most "saw" based compound words can.
        oblio 6y ago
        I'd say that Kleenex has greater global brand recognition, in this case :-) Plus, wouldn't it be spelled "sawzall-ed" (though, more likely, just "sawzalled")?
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
>That expectation seems to be at odds with everything I as a non car owner remember from my parents selling their cars. Selling and letting registration lapse are two very different things. Most states only criminalize driving a car with a expired registration. I have half a dozen cars with expired registration to my name and it's a non issue as long as I don't get pulled over driving them (which would be really hard to do since they either aren't complete enough to be drive-able or have long since been turned into tin cans).