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> No where is it advertised that autopilot handles partial lane obstructions or debris in the road, certainly better than a human. I'd say the CEO advertises i

> No where is it advertised that autopilot handles partial lane obstructions or debris in the road, certainly better than a human. I'd say the CEO advertises it otherwise. https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-autopilot-60-minutes-interview/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-autopilot-60-min...

andrewmunsell 6y ago
Elon says a lot of things he shouldn't, but the user accepts a very clear disclaimer before enabling Autopilot: https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/images/autosteer-enable-s-x.jpg https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/images/autosteer-e...
- mike_d 6y ago
  Oh, there is some disclaimer text, so it is OK that the chief executive of a company lies to its customers, investors, and regulators. Thanks for clearing that up!
- falcolas 6y ago
  A disclaimer? Oh, then it's all perfectly fine then! And it refers people to the owners manual to get all the nitty-gritty details. Of course, the owners manual is likely not updated when Autopilot is via OTA updates. A disclaimer, like a clickwrap TOS, is not enough to take away Tesla's culpability. You can't sign away your life.
  - Udik 6y ago
    I am not sure what should Tesla do exactly? Make Autopilot less capable? Rename it to "not-an-Autopilot"?
    - falcolas 6y ago
      They could start by naming their systems appropriately. "Adaptive Cruise Control" "Lane Keeping Assistance" "Automatic Emergency Braking" The same names (standardized names, really) used by other auto companies offering similar capabilities.
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      Yes, change the name, change the marketing, and get their CEO's Twitter under control. I mean, imagine this in any other industry. CEO: "Our new FireSafety-O brand insulation is fire safe!" [Some houses catch fire] Company lawyers: "Well, didn't you read the post-purchase disclaimer that says it's made out of shredded newspaper and kerosene, and is only suitable for use in a non-oxidizing atmosphere? Ignore the CEO, he's deranged."

andrewmunsell 6y ago

Elon says a lot of things he shouldn't, but the user accepts a very clear disclaimer before enabling Autopilot: https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/images/autosteer-enable-s-x.jpg https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/images/autosteer-e...

mike_d 6y ago
Oh, there is some disclaimer text, so it is OK that the chief executive of a company lies to its customers, investors, and regulators. Thanks for clearing that up!
falcolas 6y ago
A disclaimer? Oh, then it's all perfectly fine then! And it refers people to the owners manual to get all the nitty-gritty details. Of course, the owners manual is likely not updated when Autopilot is via OTA updates. A disclaimer, like a clickwrap TOS, is not enough to take away Tesla's culpability. You can't sign away your life.
- Udik 6y ago
  I am not sure what should Tesla do exactly? Make Autopilot less capable? Rename it to "not-an-Autopilot"?
  - falcolas 6y ago
    They could start by naming their systems appropriately. "Adaptive Cruise Control" "Lane Keeping Assistance" "Automatic Emergency Braking" The same names (standardized names, really) used by other auto companies offering similar capabilities.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    Yes, change the name, change the marketing, and get their CEO's Twitter under control. I mean, imagine this in any other industry. CEO: "Our new FireSafety-O brand insulation is fire safe!" [Some houses catch fire] Company lawyers: "Well, didn't you read the post-purchase disclaimer that says it's made out of shredded newspaper and kerosene, and is only suitable for use in a non-oxidizing atmosphere? Ignore the CEO, he's deranged."