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This channel has lots of content on this topic. Including interviews with all the top people. https://www.youtube.com/c/CloserToTruthTV/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/CloserToTruthTV/videos To me it seems like consciousness can only be passed from one being to another. And since we are all just a collection of cells, and everything that we are is coded inside a cell. It seems to me that consciousness must exist at the cellular level.

skohan 6y ago
Is there a reason you think consciousness can't simply be explained as brain activity?
- kkoncevicius 6y ago
  I don't think consciousness can be explained as brain activity. To me that would lead to consciousness being a form of computation.
  - anthk 6y ago
    Well, physics work on a cause-effect basis, so does your brain.
  - skohan 6y ago
    There are more neurons in your brain than stars in the galaxy, and each one of them is a chemical computer. I don't think it's so far fetched that such a system is capable of a computation as complex and nuanced as consciousness.
- dukeofdoom 6y ago
  My thoughts on this: 1) Your brain cells are just a special type of cell. How these brain cells send and receive signals, interact and make connection, is coded at the cellular level. Software without hardware to run on, is just text. 2) You are born with certain conscious behaviours that you don't need to learn. This behaviour must be passed between generations using DNA/RNA. Therefore the coding for that later behaviour must already be present when you were just two cells.
  - skohan 6y ago
    So I guess it depends on how you want to define consciousness. It's a biological reality that once sperm meets egg, you will have all the genetic information required to create your central nervous system represented there. But in my mind, this represents the potential for consciousness, not consciousness itself. In my mind consciousness implies self-awareness and subjective experience. You might then be able to say that a phagocyte has some rudimentary form of consciousness, because it has a "behavior" of pursuing and destroying undesirable bacteria and particles in the body, so it must have some level of "perception" over which entities are to be targeted, and which to ignore. But at that level you can trace the behavior to chemical signaling and sub-cellular machinery, and it's possible to trace the phagocyte's behavior to simple cause-effect relationships in terms of physics and biochemistry. So I think it's hard to imagine that a phagocyte has "experience" in any real way. I think when we talk about human consciousness, the content on which our subjective experience operates includes things like sensory information, verbal information and memories. And these types of information have neural representations which are quite clearly understood. And even for the task of consciousness, which is to interpret and contextualize all the sensory information coming into the brain, you can point to a brain region like the thalamus, which contains inputs from your senses, along with almost every other brain region, and make a reasonable argument that this might represent the physical manifestation of what we call consciousness.

skohan 6y ago

Is there a reason you think consciousness can't simply be explained as brain activity?

kkoncevicius 6y ago
I don't think consciousness can be explained as brain activity. To me that would lead to consciousness being a form of computation.
- anthk 6y ago
  Well, physics work on a cause-effect basis, so does your brain.
- skohan 6y ago
  There are more neurons in your brain than stars in the galaxy, and each one of them is a chemical computer. I don't think it's so far fetched that such a system is capable of a computation as complex and nuanced as consciousness.
dukeofdoom 6y ago
My thoughts on this: 1) Your brain cells are just a special type of cell. How these brain cells send and receive signals, interact and make connection, is coded at the cellular level. Software without hardware to run on, is just text. 2) You are born with certain conscious behaviours that you don't need to learn. This behaviour must be passed between generations using DNA/RNA. Therefore the coding for that later behaviour must already be present when you were just two cells.
- skohan 6y ago
  So I guess it depends on how you want to define consciousness. It's a biological reality that once sperm meets egg, you will have all the genetic information required to create your central nervous system represented there. But in my mind, this represents the potential for consciousness, not consciousness itself. In my mind consciousness implies self-awareness and subjective experience. You might then be able to say that a phagocyte has some rudimentary form of consciousness, because it has a "behavior" of pursuing and destroying undesirable bacteria and particles in the body, so it must have some level of "perception" over which entities are to be targeted, and which to ignore. But at that level you can trace the behavior to chemical signaling and sub-cellular machinery, and it's possible to trace the phagocyte's behavior to simple cause-effect relationships in terms of physics and biochemistry. So I think it's hard to imagine that a phagocyte has "experience" in any real way. I think when we talk about human consciousness, the content on which our subjective experience operates includes things like sensory information, verbal information and memories. And these types of information have neural representations which are quite clearly understood. And even for the task of consciousness, which is to interpret and contextualize all the sensory information coming into the brain, you can point to a brain region like the thalamus, which contains inputs from your senses, along with almost every other brain region, and make a reasonable argument that this might represent the physical manifestation of what we call consciousness.