I thought it was pretty well known that sites give themselves those rights in the TOS, especially with the recent Twitpic issues where they were selling user co

I thought it was pretty well known that sites give themselves those rights in the TOS, especially with the recent Twitpic issues where they were selling user content. In any case, from SmugMug's terms: "However, by uploading and/or posting any User Content to the Site, you grant SmugMug a perpetual, nonexclusive and royalty-free right to use the User Content and the name that is submitted in connection with such User Content, as is reasonably necessary to display the User Content, provide the Services and to facilitate, at Content Owner's direction, the license of Photos or the sale of Products on the Site." Under #13, http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/ http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/. From Facebook terms, "you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook ("IP License"). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it." Under #2-1, http://www.facebook.com/#!/terms.php http://www.facebook.com/#!/terms.php. Noticed you had no response to the value gained from OpenPhoto over the download all.