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I just wish Adobe CC wasn't the buggiest piece of software I've ever used. I've had a number of issues over the years, but my current issue is that when I try

I just wish Adobe CC wasn't the buggiest piece of software I've ever used. I've had a number of issues over the years, but my current issue is that when I try to open CC the interface elements all freeze and are unclickable (even though the window is still scrollable – very strange behavior). So I went to uninstall it, but I can't because Photoshop is installed. So I went to uninstall Photoshop, but you guessed it, I can only uninstall PS through CC, which is unresponsive. Smh.

taisalie 6y ago
Right? Now prove you're not GPT-3 keying on the domain name.
judge2020 6y ago
They have a tool specifically crafted to remove their buggy software: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-in... Note that this isn't the same as uninstalling everything via the official process since this leaves behind stuff like Adobe's Genuine client which verifies you're not using pirated software.
- fastball 6y ago
  Nice, thanks for the tip, will give it a go!
medicineman 6y ago
You have to use the Adobe CC removal tool. Done that about 4 times this last year. Real PITA.
virtualritz 6y ago
It's not only Creative Cloud itself but all the newer versions of their apps I recently used. I needed to update my CV recently and expected to spend 1h in InDesign. I spent 6h in the end. – InDesign crashes while saving and destroys my document. 1h lost. – InDesign crashes while exporting a PDF of my document (9 pages). I hadn't saved. 1h lost. – InDesign crashes (reproducible) when adding/inserting a page (mind you, that's page 10). First time this happened I hadn't saved for half an hour. I was really considering changing the text because I couldn't solve this. Then I found [1]. Quote: > [...] after speaking to Adobe chat help, they asked me to send my file to them. They sent it back to me and everything went back to normal. [...] "File was corrupted , we recovered it by using scripts and then saved as IDML." – Because of the above I had the idea of exporting to IDML. Re-importing then allowed me to add the page but I had subtle formatting errors where the last character before a tab or a newline on lines that had the font changed via a character style had the wrong style. Fixing this: 1h. – When I re-arranged parts of the CV via copy & paste entire sections I copied lost the small caps/italic styles they had assigned (acronyms/names). Going through the entire document to fix this: 1.5h. I should have known better. Less than two years ago I helped a friend do a snail mail mass mailing where we used a CSV file with addresses to create hundreds of (two page) letters. All in InDesign. Everything worked until we tried to export as PDF, for printing. The solution was to export as 'interactive' PDF and only export about ~100 pages at a time. I bought Affinity Publisher already when the thing with the letters happened. But I naively believed updating my CV would be quick in InDesign. In retrospect typesetting the CV from scratch in Publisher would have been the better choice. Last week I helped a friend with a commercial that was mostly 3D and some motion graphics done in After Effects (Ae). We couldn't get it to render in After Effects 2019. It would run out memory and then just not render the frame or crash. In the end we exported the project for an older version and went back to an Ae CC version from six years before. That worked without any issues. All this is just shocking. I used InDesign from 1.0 and it was not that bad, a decade ago. Ae ... the same. See above. As of a recent update, Acrobat Reader (free version) refuses to let me open any document w/o signing into CC first. Another wtf. What a friend of mine replied when he heard about my InDesign adventure: > I'm on CS6 for anything Adobe. Just junk now. [1] https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-crashes-when-adding-deleting-pages/m-p/9046300 https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-crashes-whe...
bogwog 6y ago
People are doing this to themselves. Stop buying their shitty software, and see how quickly they start to fix it. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with Adobe, since their software nowadays isn't that good. There are tons of alternatives out there that work better and do the same thing, if not more. Is it just laziness/reluctance to learn something new?
- Tagbert 6y ago
  A large part of it is that commercial use involves sharing files with other people. It's very hard to get constant results if you are not using the same software. The file formats are mostly propriety and complex. The effects applied are dynamic and probably also propriety. It's just a mess, so everyone just puts up with it and continues to use "the standard" software. If you are just doing graphic work yourself, there are other applications like Affinity that can work, as long as you are not collaborating.
- Miraste 6y ago
  Some of Adobe's other products have superior competition, but Photoshop is the flagship and despite its stable of bugs I don't think there's anything better. If you have alternatives to suggest I'm interested (I really hate Adobe). Ones I'm aware of: Affinity Photo. Much more stable than Photoshop and I like it a lot, but there are things Photoshop does that Affinity doesn't and I can't think of anything that goes the other way. Krita. Fairly sleek, especially for OSS. Becoming very competitive for digital illustration, but not (and not intended to be) a great photo editor. paint.net. Good for fast edits but simplified, not a true competitor. GIMP. Ancient, slow, ugly, clunky, severely lacking in features, and somehow even less stable than Photoshop.
- knlam 6y ago
  Well, I can't. I didn't choose to use this shitty software, my company is using it. Even if I make a statement to replace it with something better, my clients are still using it. I hate it with the passion, but it is hard(impossible) to change habit of others

taisalie 6y ago

Right? Now prove you're not GPT-3 keying on the domain name.

judge2020 6y ago

They have a tool specifically crafted to remove their buggy software: https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-in... Note that this isn't the same as uninstalling everything via the official process since this leaves behind stuff like Adobe's Genuine client which verifies you're not using pirated software.

fastball 6y ago
Nice, thanks for the tip, will give it a go!

medicineman 6y ago

You have to use the Adobe CC removal tool. Done that about 4 times this last year. Real PITA.

virtualritz 6y ago

It's not only Creative Cloud itself but all the newer versions of their apps I recently used. I needed to update my CV recently and expected to spend 1h in InDesign. I spent 6h in the end. – InDesign crashes while saving and destroys my document. 1h lost. – InDesign crashes while exporting a PDF of my document (9 pages). I hadn't saved. 1h lost. – InDesign crashes (reproducible) when adding/inserting a page (mind you, that's page 10). First time this happened I hadn't saved for half an hour. I was really considering changing the text because I couldn't solve this. Then I found [1]. Quote: > [...] after speaking to Adobe chat help, they asked me to send my file to them. They sent it back to me and everything went back to normal. [...] "File was corrupted , we recovered it by using scripts and then saved as IDML." – Because of the above I had the idea of exporting to IDML. Re-importing then allowed me to add the page but I had subtle formatting errors where the last character before a tab or a newline on lines that had the font changed via a character style had the wrong style. Fixing this: 1h. – When I re-arranged parts of the CV via copy & paste entire sections I copied lost the small caps/italic styles they had assigned (acronyms/names). Going through the entire document to fix this: 1.5h. I should have known better. Less than two years ago I helped a friend do a snail mail mass mailing where we used a CSV file with addresses to create hundreds of (two page) letters. All in InDesign. Everything worked until we tried to export as PDF, for printing. The solution was to export as 'interactive' PDF and only export about ~100 pages at a time. I bought Affinity Publisher already when the thing with the letters happened. But I naively believed updating my CV would be quick in InDesign. In retrospect typesetting the CV from scratch in Publisher would have been the better choice. Last week I helped a friend with a commercial that was mostly 3D and some motion graphics done in After Effects (Ae). We couldn't get it to render in After Effects 2019. It would run out memory and then just not render the frame or crash. In the end we exported the project for an older version and went back to an Ae CC version from six years before. That worked without any issues. All this is just shocking. I used InDesign from 1.0 and it was not that bad, a decade ago. Ae ... the same. See above. As of a recent update, Acrobat Reader (free version) refuses to let me open any document w/o signing into CC first. Another wtf. What a friend of mine replied when he heard about my InDesign adventure: > I'm on CS6 for anything Adobe. Just junk now. [1] https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-crashes-when-adding-deleting-pages/m-p/9046300 https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign/indesign-crashes-whe...

bogwog 6y ago

People are doing this to themselves. Stop buying their shitty software, and see how quickly they start to fix it. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with Adobe, since their software nowadays isn't that good. There are tons of alternatives out there that work better and do the same thing, if not more. Is it just laziness/reluctance to learn something new?

Tagbert 6y ago
A large part of it is that commercial use involves sharing files with other people. It's very hard to get constant results if you are not using the same software. The file formats are mostly propriety and complex. The effects applied are dynamic and probably also propriety. It's just a mess, so everyone just puts up with it and continues to use "the standard" software. If you are just doing graphic work yourself, there are other applications like Affinity that can work, as long as you are not collaborating.
Miraste 6y ago
Some of Adobe's other products have superior competition, but Photoshop is the flagship and despite its stable of bugs I don't think there's anything better. If you have alternatives to suggest I'm interested (I really hate Adobe). Ones I'm aware of: Affinity Photo. Much more stable than Photoshop and I like it a lot, but there are things Photoshop does that Affinity doesn't and I can't think of anything that goes the other way. Krita. Fairly sleek, especially for OSS. Becoming very competitive for digital illustration, but not (and not intended to be) a great photo editor. paint.net. Good for fast edits but simplified, not a true competitor. GIMP. Ancient, slow, ugly, clunky, severely lacking in features, and somehow even less stable than Photoshop.
knlam 6y ago
Well, I can't. I didn't choose to use this shitty software, my company is using it. Even if I make a statement to replace it with something better, my clients are still using it. I hate it with the passion, but it is hard(impossible) to change habit of others