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Law enforcement are untrustworthy, bigoted and violent. Some of them are also corrupt. Laws are written by bigots to oppress people. Corporations view you as

Law enforcement are untrustworthy, bigoted and violent. Some of them are also corrupt. Laws are written by bigots to oppress people. Corporations view you as a meat byproduct and your human rights as inconveniences. All of these problems are global, and IMO, they are the underlying issues of the privacy problem that nobody likes to mention. Because when you strip off the indirections, what people are fighting for is the right to break or ignore laws with impunity - because your line isn't tapped or your face isn't recognised. Why do we need havens from the law? Because the law is bad. I'm not arguing we should abandon privacy. But I'm arguing we need to refocus attention where it belongs, on bad law and bad law enforcement. Or otherwise we will be in a constant game of spy-vs-spy trying to outwit them as we carve out our little havens, and they kick the doors in.

nonameiguess 6y ago
This needs to be signal boosted. The fact that we were able to apprehend a a guy raping 7 year-olds in his basement because he accidentally photo bombed a bodybuilding convention once is great. It's a very good thing that committing crime in the dark and staying hidden forever is the hardest it has ever been. The entire problem here is that we can't trust law enforcement to only use technology like this for good because we can't trust law enforcement. We can't put this genie back in the bottle. There is no way to conceivably stop the police from scraping completely public sources of information to find you. This service is just scaling and automating the anonymous tip. They're not even grabbing anything private. Facebook and Google sent them cease and desist letters when they found out what they were doing but those couldn't be enforced because you can't keep people from scraping publicly viewable photos. The only solution to this is trustworthy law enforcement. Which is unfortunately maybe not even a solvable problem, but I don't know what else we could even try to do.
- Buttons840 6y ago
  Government and law enforcement needs to be surveilled more than the public. This is the opposite of what seems to be happening.
  - JulianMorrison 6y ago
    Still too indirect. You know what cops do when they're made to wear body cams? Exactly the same thing they were doing anyway, because they have every reasonable expectation they'll get away with it.

nonameiguess 6y ago

This needs to be signal boosted. The fact that we were able to apprehend a a guy raping 7 year-olds in his basement because he accidentally photo bombed a bodybuilding convention once is great. It's a very good thing that committing crime in the dark and staying hidden forever is the hardest it has ever been. The entire problem here is that we can't trust law enforcement to only use technology like this for good because we can't trust law enforcement. We can't put this genie back in the bottle. There is no way to conceivably stop the police from scraping completely public sources of information to find you. This service is just scaling and automating the anonymous tip. They're not even grabbing anything private. Facebook and Google sent them cease and desist letters when they found out what they were doing but those couldn't be enforced because you can't keep people from scraping publicly viewable photos. The only solution to this is trustworthy law enforcement. Which is unfortunately maybe not even a solvable problem, but I don't know what else we could even try to do.

Buttons840 6y ago
Government and law enforcement needs to be surveilled more than the public. This is the opposite of what seems to be happening.
- JulianMorrison 6y ago
  Still too indirect. You know what cops do when they're made to wear body cams? Exactly the same thing they were doing anyway, because they have every reasonable expectation they'll get away with it.